Canadian Breeder Karen McKay of Candoodle Labradoodles, who allegedly scammed me into paying for a refund for a breeding female who did not have the health problems she claimed to have (I found her new owner in California, Karen sold her to after having bred with her, and the tests performed at my expense). Beverley Manners 2011.
Now for the TRUTH!
We (my husband Tom and myself Karen McKay) purchased Lulu (Rutlands Lulubelle) from Bev at Rutland Manor Labradoodles in 2002 for the price of $24,000. 00 Canadian Dollars as an open breeding female. We took Lulu to her first CERF exam on July 5, 2002 where Dr. Lewis DVM, DACVO, found an Inter. equatorial cortex cataract in her right eye – his comments are : Origin of Cataract is undetermined – recheck 6-12 months. Left eye was Normal.
We contacted Bev Manners – and she informed us to have it rechecked that maybe Lulu had hurt her eye when she was younger but that she would make it good.
Dr. Lewis only comes to our small community once yearly so on July 4, 2003 we again took Lulu for her yearly CERF where again the cataract was found, and noted on her CERF papers along with: Rt Eye: No Significant Cataract regression. Left Eye: Peripheral Cataract: Possibly Inherited. In further discussion with Dr. Lewis it was determined that we should not breed with Lulu, the possibility of this being Inherited was far too strong.
Again, we contacted Bev who stated she was going to take Lulu back, breed her and prove to the world that there was nothing wrong with her. At the time of our discussion Lulu was in season and Bev asked us to breed her to our male Coal, that she would need his CERF records so if any of the puppies did in fact have a problem they could rule out Coal’s involvement in it. We hesitantly agreed, but the dog was to belong to Bev as she was replacing her so we did as she asked.
We waited and waited however the replacement female never materialized and we were offered a puppy and then 2 puppies but we wanted an open adult female just as we had purchased so we declined the offers. Lulu continued to get closer to her delivery date and Bev stopped answering emails or phone calls. Finally, we were able to contact Bev and ask her what she was going to do with Lulu at which time she told us to enjoy our litter and to have a nice life.
We called and emailed with our discontent until we received an email that stated Rutland Manor`s Board of Directors had met and decided that we were to keep Lulu and whelp her litter. Place her puppies and retain the funds from her litter, have Lulu spayed and place her in a forever home and keep whatever placing fee we received. Once this was complete, we were to send them the spay certificate and they would refund our purchase price. We were to keep the money from placing Lulu and the puppies as compensation for the out of pocket expenses, care and feeding of Lulu, Dr. visits etc. etc.
We did all of this, sent them a copy of the spay certificate and wham – we were then told that we had lied, that we were scamming Bev – that the CERF exam was of some other female with cataracts and not Lulu and we were just trying to cheat Bev out of her money – therefore she was not going to replace her or refund our purchased price.
Meanwhile – as we were fighting with Bev and seeking, legal council, the family that now had Lulu wanted another older doodle and because we did not have one they decided to contact Lulu`s original breeder, Bev Manners. Bev asked them if they would please have Lulu`s eyes checked – which they agreed to do only if Bev paid in advance for the testing. Bev did, so they took Lulu to the Eye Care for Animals clinic in Tustin California where she was seen by Dr. Allison Hoffman. (This is the eye exam that Bev constantly tells everyone she paid for and that it proves Lulu is fine – however Bev has never let anyone see this document and had no idea that the family sent me a copy as well and here it is for everyone see)
Dr. Hoffman`s findings are: Diagnosis – Equatorial Cataract OD
After 5 years from Lulu joining us and having gone through both the Court System in Canada and then progressing to the Court System in Australia – it was determined that Bev was indeed at fault and was required to pay back the $24000.00 purchase price and a small portion of the court costs – which after this length of time and involving 2 countries -were extensive.
I have constantly been barraged by Bev about my conniving, manipulating, lying, dishonest dealing with her. My name and reputation have constantly been slandered by her citing what a bad person I am, etc. etc. I have spoken up only a couple of times but I truly feel that it is time to set the record straight. I did not in any way lie, I have all three of the eye CERF exams here for inspection. The Court proceedings are a matter of public information – they can be viewed at any time. I ask Bev to produce the documentation that constantly is being slung at us, proving that I have lied, connived against and manipulated anything to do with Bev Manners or Rutland Manor. I can guarantee you it will not be provided – it DOES NOT EXIST.
As you readily like to tell us all BEV – The Proof Is In The Puddin’ – Well – Here is the puddin Bev!!!