Skip to content

The Rutland Report

October 24, 2009

For months now most of us have been eagerly awaiting the official findings of Beverley’s “investigation team” who have stated “RM has such a lot of documentation that proves the lies are lies on those forums…We do have all the proof needed to show these lies up for what they are”.

Well we were disappointed to read what this “investigation team” has come up with. Simply more lies and excuses, more people blamed for all of the Beverley’s problems, never Beverley herself, she is always the victim. And no mention of the dogs or any compassion shown towards their horrific treatment. Remember the dogs Beverley ?

Here is what they have come up with so far.

Beverley wrote to Michael Tucker after reading his comments on our site. She told Michael that she used another name back then, “Beverley Kunze” she then told her “investigation team” that Michael Tucker didn’t reply, Beverley must of forgotten because he did, here is part of his reply.

Dear Beverley,

In reply to your e-mail…..

You mentioned my Border Collie as being timid. She wasn’t! On the contrary she was bold and had a marvellous aptitude for learning, hence heeling backwards and sideways etc as you witnessed.

You mentioned my experiences, when in the UK, that tests were carried out when feeding dogs and they salivated at the sound of the bell. That was carried out overseas by the Russian scientist Pavlov, before I was born (1934).

I did not tell you that a dog bonds to a person who trains it more readily than to the person who feeds it. I said that it will often respect a person who trains it. Many trainers have demonstrated that to be true. There is a big difference between the verbs: to bond and to respect. I’m sure you’ll agree.

In all the other points mentioned in my statement, you will see that I have corrected your errors so that you don’t make them again. I don’t think that there is anything wrong with that, is there?

Regards,

Michael Tucker.

HappyWandererOfRutlands2005_SMLBeverley is now claiming that Happy Wanderer of Rutlands was not from the pound and is an Australian Labradoodle.

On the RM website, Wanda’s description has always been that she had an “unimpressive” pedigree. It is important to note that, from Wanda’s litters, only desexed puppies were sold and there were NO puppies sold to Breeders.  Again, it was always correctly presented on the RM website –  Wanda had an unimpressive pedigree.  She was bred by a small breeder who didn’t provide pedigrees for her dogs. This is not unusual; there are plenty of small breeders who do not give pedigrees with their Labradoodles and who do not de-sex them when sold. All of the owners are happy with their Wanda pups. Below is but one testimony (more available on request). Wanda is now desexed and happily living in her forever home in the USA.

All 55 owners of the pound dogs puppies are happy that they paid thousands for a dog that may or may not be a Labradoodle? How much did the owner of Wanda pay for her? Remember Wanda’s daughter Rutlands Happy Wanderer, Happy was retained for breeding even though Beverley claims no puppies were sold to other breeders. Happy disappeared from Rutland Manor a week after we exposed the truth about her origins on this site. Remember the dogs Beverley ? Where is Happy, daughter of the pound dog? Who has her now, is she at Valley View or ACA puppy farm?  “We now think she is emotionally ready to becoming a Mama so we’re looking forward to breeding her during the latter part of 2009 Beverley Manners 2009″

Rutlands Happy Wanderer

Rutlands Happy Wanderer

Neither Beverley or her “investigation team” offer an explanation as to why Beverley felt it necessary for this rescued stray to have 55 puppies, no apology, no compassion shown towards Wanda, who made Beverley a fortune. It is a cold harsh attempt at justifying this cruel act. Wanda was a stray from a pound and there is no justification for using a rescue dog as a breeding machine. And why is Wanda now an Australian Labradoodle, 3 months ago she wasn’t?

The dog was never represented as being bred by Rutland Manor or officially having any Australian Labradoodles in her ancestry, although we all believed her to be a Labradoodle. Beverley July 2009

Beverley is now claiming Rutland Manor is not bankrupt. Might want to tell that fact to the Liquidators Beverley.

CORRECT INFORMATION – NO BANKRUPTCY

September 28, 2009

Over the entire span of her business life Beverley has been very good at staying abreast of her company’s billings.   Lately, however, she has amassed a substantial debt — most of it not of her own doing.   In that regard she has made clear and concise arrangements with her major creditor to pay $1,000.00 per month as a minimum and anything above and beyond that that she can afford on any given payment cycle.   The major portion of her debt arose from the assumption of a relative’s business burden that, in its accrual, had nothing to do with Beverley.   The creditor with whom Beverley has made the payment arrangement is in the animal transport business.   At a crucial point of his business expansion, this particular creditor received some $40,000.00 from Beverley to partially retire a debt incurred by an entirely independent and separate business — as stated, the only connection to Beverley by this other business was by way of a family relationship.   In an offer of assistance to the benefit of both the creditor and the debtor, Beverley mortgaged her home to raise most of the sum of the debt and paid it directly to the creditor.   The creditor, himself guilty of irregular and inconsistent billing practices, has groused about the payment of the $1,000.00-per-month-arrangement, one which he initially accepted and to which he agreed.   In his communications to Beverley he (or others from his office) have complained about Beverley’s loss of business to his company which brings up another point of disinformation that is inexorably tied to this one.

OK Did you understand all that? In short Beverley is stating Rutland Manor is not bankrupt.

Here’s our reply, click on the link.

Consent of Liquidator

Beverley you may want to tell the security guard you hired so you can now pay him.

My partner worked for Bev in 2005 doing guard duties, He hadn’t heard from Beverley for 4 years, she rang on 1st September 2009, upset and crying, ‘they were trying to steal her dogs’ she wanted him there immediately, he drove nearly 2 hours to get there, and worked 7 very cold nights, she didn’t want him to leave her on her own at night, so one Saturday I went with him and slept in the car.
When I got back home , I did a bit of research, ‘warning bells’, I rang my partner to let him know what I had discovered.
He gave Beverley his invoice, later that day she started bagging me, and he left. I could see very clearly how this person operated, and felt very hurt, that my partner had so much faith in her. He knows the full truth now
Of course, he still has not been paid for the work he did, VCAT will be handling that.
He has told me everything about his week at RM, and all of these posts on this site validate what he has told me, especially never seeing her attend to the dogs, just attending to the website maintenance,
We did have a bit of a laugh when looking at Beverley’s site to see that the house-cleaner had upgraded to the dog groomer.

GetAttachment.aspxAnd from the security guard,

In the week I was there, Bev always surfaced after midday, never went near her dogs, most of the time at her website, except the times she sat with me complaining about her workers, her neighbors, yourselves, local police and shire. Said she was on a pension, I can’t believe this, with her doodle income and those people who believe in her and have donated large sums of money.

For those people that read this, you need to know that I am a Christian man who loves Jesus, my heart goes out to those that have been fooled by Beverley and have been taken in by her lies and deceit.

Beverley is not the person I remember from 2005, I feel totally used by this greedy woman, and I thought she was a Christian, I was wrong.

None of the explanations offered By Beverley or her “investigation team” offer us anything except more excuses, justifications and lies. Not once is any compassion or respect shown to these dogs. Everything is discussed in cold clinical terms, and they claim to love these dogs. Did they love Ellie, or did they love her 9 back to back litters and the money she earned? We are still waiting for Beverley’s excuse as to why Ellie was forced to give birth to 52 puppies and was then allegedly shot dead by her son-in-law. Judging by the excuses you have just read we wont get any sympathy or compassion shown towards Ellie from Beverley or her “investigation team”.

It is quite clear the aim of the game is to protect Beverley no matter what the cost. Market her as the innocent “founder” or “creator” of the Labradoodle” that can do no wrong.  She isn’t the founder or the creator, she doesn’t love these dogs, she is a proven liar that has used these dogs and manipulated others for what ever she can get out of them for years. Her diversion tactics are well known and published all over the internet. Her threats to everyone who as ever spoken out and challenged her are also well known and published. Its all about the money.

Remember the dogs.

Advertisements
34 Comments leave one →
  1. Lisa Ryan permalink
    October 24, 2009 9:19 pm

    And Bev is on a pension is she – what an absolute hide – to declare to Baw Baw Shire Council your million dollar earnings for the Australian Government through the dog exports on the one hand and then with the other take back an Australian pension which you are no doubt NOT entitled to. You obviously haven’t been declaring your million dollar per annum earnings to the Australian Taxation Office have you Bev or the Australian Securities and Investments Commission.

    So Rutland Manor is not bankrupt – well that’s a relief because I don’t think a former Director from a bankrupt/liquidated company is allowed to sign as a Director for a new company (New Covenant) as Bev has in her letter to Baw Baw Shire Council about her million dollar per annum earnings.

    Bev’s team have only made things worse. Bev actually did a better job with the PR propaganda, lies, manipulation, threats, cover-ups etc all by herself. Now with the extra fingers in the numerous pies, they can’t even get the tangled web of woven lies in the right order or to tally up with what has previously been published on so many sites in so many places around the world.

    Again – we all know Bev and obviously encouraged and supported by the RM groupies (who all love dogs !) lie, manipulate and threaten. Again proven by the new twisted version for Wanda who one minute isn’t a Labradoodle and then is, is one minute rescued from a pound with no known history and then is taken from a elsewhere with a knowledge of the Sire and Dam’s names. What a crock of !!!That Bev is a not so skilled liar as been demonstrated time and time again and no further energy or effort needs to confirm this. We now know that the RM groupies have no issue with lies either. They couldn’t tell the truth if their lives depended on it. That they ignore what is extreme cruelty to these dogs and only focus on their amateur PR campaign of lies with pretty pictures, or getting in the last word or comment is a disgrace for so called dog lovers. What is the priority here ???. Have a look at the photos of some of the mattered coats on these dogs ladies, read the comments from around the world at the condition in which dogs have arrived, read the responses from credible individuals and organizations who have shot Beverly Manners and her lies and twisting of the truth down in flames time and time again.

    What is important here however is the dogs, and this is where the focus and energy needs to be not only continued, but increased and strengthened. Yes we will all remember all the dogs and we will all continue fighting for the dogs, all of them.

  2. Anonymous permalink
    October 25, 2009 6:20 am

    Yes, Beverley, what about Ellie? What do you have to say for yourself?
    Or has the cat got your tongue.

  3. heike allison permalink
    October 25, 2009 7:22 am

    Wow another first hand experience!!! Monash, Barber, Tucker, the list keeps going on an on.

  4. Beth permalink
    October 25, 2009 9:54 am

    Just wondering Beverly if you could explain to the Australian Pensioners how you can afford the vet bills for all your puppies and also to be able to go to America in April this year as I know they can barely make ends meet!! Your lies will be your ending!!!

  5. Anonymous permalink
    October 25, 2009 11:22 am

    The Australian Securities & Investment Commission (ASIC) also show Rutland Manor under external administration and in the hands of liquidators

    http://www.search.asic.gov.au/cgi-bin/gns030c?acn=101124850&juris=9&hdtext=ACN&srchsrc=1

  6. Jenny T. permalink
    October 25, 2009 12:35 pm

    I can’t wait to go on the pension if it means having her assets! She could afford a security guard and an investigation team, not to mention the lawyers she is constantly threatening everyone with! She must of used all the pension up on the investigative team and that’s why the poor security guard couldn’t get his pay. Shame on that naughty creditor for inconsistent billing practices. Beverley has clearly made him suffer for his sins by withholding the thousands of dollars she owes until they get their act together. I supposed it’s much more fun going to the USA than paying your creditors. And as for Micheal Tucker. I feel so sorry for him. Here is a legendary dog trainer being harrassed by email by a person who is only a legend in her own lunchtime.

  7. Graeme permalink
    October 25, 2009 12:42 pm

    For God’s sake Beverley pay the man his weeks wage! Do not make this family go through a legal process just to get what they are owed, I thought you were a Christian woman?
    Whats your excuse about the treatment of Ellie ? Who are you going to blame for that?
    Give up, desex the dogs and go home.

  8. Mary permalink
    October 25, 2009 1:45 pm

    Sound like the ‘supporters’ who are emphasizing the point, that no breeding stock was sold from Wanda, is suppose to make is all sound OK .
    There is no rebuttal to the fact that Wanda was up for sale as adult breeding stock. She was offered for a cheap price of $10,000 since she came from a small breeder who didn’t keep pedigrees. Just because she ended up spayed, or no breeding puppies were ever sold out Wanda, all that means is the opportunity didn’t present itself for that to happen.

    The heart of the matter is ..there just wasn’t a ‘victim’ at that time.

    I don’t just speak up at times here, because I am following naysayers blindly. So if any of the ‘supporters’ reading this happen to think that..you are mistaken. My prayer is that someday..all the ‘blind’ will eventually see the truth ..perhaps then the innocent (humans and dogs) will finally be set free

  9. silva permalink
    October 25, 2009 1:57 pm

    The security guard not being paid should be a warning to the other employees. How long will they be paid? They have shown great loyalty to Beverley, will she show more loyalty to them than she did to the guard?

  10. Mary permalink
    October 25, 2009 4:29 pm

    Everyone of us at some point in our lives have been an innocent victim of a psychopaths to some degree. Remember..psychopaths are not always the typical serial killer that we think of when we hear the word

    I spoke out publicly years ago about my RM experience and I was tarred and feathered in the most cruelest of manner of anything I ever imagined a human being could be, was sent ‘cease and desist’ threats. I did nothing more than state what happened to me.

    I just had to come to peace with it all..which I admit I still do struggle with..but my only resolve over the last 8 years has been..”we reap what we sow”..

    There has been a huge decline over the years in the amt of breeding stock being sold from RM into the USA. Breeders may not have been speaking out publically but word was slowly getting around, at least in this country and now I see that to be the case in the UK as well.. As long as you never question Beverely, ask for proof of anything or attempt to be compensated because your breeding stock failed health testing and you tell her how wonderful she is …then Beverely is nice as pie to deal with.
    Those that support her have never been on the other side of this fence with her..they havn’t experienced this ‘other’ personality. It is truely a Jekle Hyde experience which I wouldn’t ever wish on anyone. It is evilness of unbelievable proportions

    Since over the years she has destroyed so many relationships with many breeders ..her only outlet within the last couple years..has been negative compaigning on her web-site against most all other breeders and organizations, and rallying support from pet owners. She has no one else left.
    Her supporters believe that anyone that speaks out against her.. are just jealous of her.
    Jealous of her? What ajoke! ! For years we believed that her knowledge was invaluable. We were excited to learn from.her. But she made a point to set out to destroy anyone or any Organization who did not line themselves up with her ways of self serving Nazi control.
    She does not have the capacity to work ‘with’ people. She sold breeding stock and then gave advise to a breeder that would have knowingly caused a mating between a mother and a son because of false pedigrees. This has been proven by a group effort of concerned individuals in coberation with the ALAA to provide DNA parentage testing to prove she was lying about the pedigree. Yes..she willing stated she would supply the males stud DNA to prove she was not lying..but mystically the stud vanished from her breeding program within a week. But…happy to say a concerned and caring individual tracked him down and supplied his DNA. Her breeding advise is nothing more than an attempt to have other breeders fail even after giving her 10’s of thoughsands of dollars. Why would she do that you ask? The answers lies in the profile of a psychopath.

    She had many good ideas but she just can’t work in any partnership with anyone without creating animosity. And she definitley doesn’t want anyone to succeed independent of her.

    Everything she has touched has failed (ILA ALA, RMUSA, ALPS, etc)but she can’t see herself as ever being part of the problem..she only blames it on everyone else. These were all great ideas, organizations and business ideas that could of served her, other breeders and the developing breed very well. It’s a shame that someone of great intelligence suffers from such disorders that stand in her own way.

    It’s actually very sad.. I said long ago…’She could of had it all’..but greed and lies , unethical breeding practices, will be her destruction. But from years and years of observations, I believed greed was just a symptom of a more serious problem of not being able to ever feel she could trust anyone. It’s fueled by paranoia that make her react in a way , especially when she is questioned and therefore feels vunerable and threathened ,that she feels she needs to ‘get them’ before they get her . It’s actually very sad.
    She then needs to rebound by doing public displays to her supporters for pity..which actually then reinforces her imaginations that she was right.. which sets the cycle up all over again. I was never one to believe that a person can be so full of hatred and just be evil to be evil..there is usually something much deeper behind it. It’s truely a sad situation especially because so many have been innocently hurt and financially raped

    But if you do research on the profile of a psychopath..you will see they are extremely intelligent people, mentally ill, emotional manipulators, no emotional feeling of love or compassion, but are great pretenders to have those feeling. The main trait of a psychopath is..they have NO conscience! Financial wealth is the main motivation. For those of us who have been a victim of such evilness..you will see many many parallels in your own research .

    Like I mentioned..I don’t have any 1st hand experience with how her dogs actually live..I am only speaking from personal experience from the standpoint of a business relationship.

    How can so many of us, who have never even met or talked, have had the exact same experiences from all ends of the world , if we aren’telling the truth. Co-incidences like that just do not happen, yet ‘her supporters’ will chew us up and spit us out when we speak up. But their behavior is typically for the profile of ‘cult members’ which they are innocent victims themselves.

    There is a strong correlation between the temperament of a cult leader and a psychopath.
    A cult is not always a religious entity.
    Here are some basic highlights of the behavior of the group followers and it’s leader.

    Cult Leader as Psychopath:
    Psychopaths are social predators who charm, manipulate, and ruthlessly plow their way through life, leaving a broad trail of broken hearts, shattered expectations, and empty wallets. Completely lacking in conscience and in feelings for others, they selfishly take what they want and do as they please, violating social norms and expectations without the slightest sense of guilt or regret.
    Glibness/Superficial Charm:
    Glibness is a hallmark of psychopaths. They are able to use language effortlessly to beguile, confuse, and convince. They are captivating storytellers. They exude self-confidence and are able to spin a web that intrigues others and pulls them into the psychopath’s life. Most of all, they are persuasive. Frequently they have the capacity to destroy their critics verbally or disarm them emotionally.
    Manipulative and Conning:
    The hallmark of the psychopath is the psychopathic maneuver; which is essentially interpersonal manipulation based on charm. The manipulator appears to be helpful, charming, even ingratiating or seductive, but is covertly hostile, domineering….[The victim] is perceived as an aggressor, competitor, or merely as an instrument to be used….The manipulation inevitably becomes the end-all and is no longer qualified by the reality principle.
    Grandiose Sense of Self:
    The cult leader enjoys tremendous feelings of entitlement. He believes everything is owed to him as a right. Preoccupied with his own fantasies, he must always be the center of attention. He presents himself as the “Ultimate One” enlightened, or a vehicle of God, a genius, a guru, the leader of humankind, and sometimes even the most humble of humble. He has an insatiable need for adulation and attendance.
    Pathological Lying:
    Psychopaths lie coolly and easily, even when it is obvious they are being untruthful. It is almost impossible for them to be consistently truthful about either a major or minor issue. They lie for no apparent reason, even when it would seem easier and safer to tell the truth. This is sometimes called “crazy lying.” Confronting their lies may provoke an unpredictably incense rage or simply a Buddha-like smile.
    We may know who this person is and we need to be careful about not being manipulated.

    CULTS (exerpts) by Steve Hassan – Leading American Cult Exit-Counselor

    Cult Watch
    10 Points to look out for in group members

    1) Obsession about group or the leader putting it above most other considerations.

    2) Member’s individual identity becomes increasingly fused with the group, the leader and/or God followed by the group. Cloning of the group members or leader’s personal behaviors.

    3) Emotional overreaction of the followers when the group or leader is criticized. Seen as evil persecution.

    4) Belief that the group is “THE WAY” and they have a mission (Why we Support RM Group)

    5) Increasing dependency upon the group or leader for problem solving, explanations, definitions and analysis, and corresponding decline in real, independent thought.

    6) Excessive hyperactivity and work for the group or leader, at the expense of private or family interests . (As seem by individuals who will to drop everything to support their leader)
    7) Preparedness to blindly follow the group or leader and defend actions or statements without seeking independent verification. (key word here is ‘Independent Verification’)
    not verification with the actual leader as seen by the group Why We Support Rutland Manor

    8)Demonization of former members or members of alternative groups.

    9) Desire to be praised for doing the right thing and fear of public rebuke

    10) Unhealthy wish to be seen with or aligned publicly with the leader(s) of the group

    Cult Leaders
    5 Points to look out for in your group leader

    1) Authoritarian approach and INTOLERANCE of questioning or criticism. Lies about and insults opponents.

    2)Leader shows anxiety about the world, speaking of threats or conspiracies against the group.

    3)Leader regularly accuses dissatisfied members who leave of having something wrong with them, having personality disorders or being transgressor and deserters.

    4)Ex-members have similar stories of abuse and ill-treatment by the leader(s). (Too numerous to even count ..but they are slowly coming out in the open)

    5)The group/leader is always right and followers never feel they can be “good enough” or ‘do enough’ for their leader.

    Uncertainity..
    Cults prey on human aversion to uncertainty. (will go out of their way to the public audience that are confused about the truth . The group supplies ready made answers for everything, thus helping to reduce insecurity and fear. Everything is seen in terms of black and white, pure and the impure, good and evil. There are set answers for everything and no room for uncertainty, controversy, healthy debate or doubt. The member is given a complete solution. In return, members of the group are expected to be unquestioning in their commitment to the group’s identity, its ideas and leaders (or past leaders).

    Falsification…
    Not content with creating a false conception of the present, cults are also not adverse to rewriting history also. Whenever historical fact or the truth doesn’t fit in with the cult leaders’ designs and aspirations, they simply change it. As Lifton says “past historical events are retrospectively altered, wholly rewritten, or ignored, to make them consistent with the doctrinal logic” The new line “simply replaces the realities of individual experience…”

    Cloning
    Cults “clone” people into smaller versions of the cult leader(s) and members. (perhaps this sounds very familiar as to who these clones may be?) Visiting a branch of the same cult in Toronto or Tokyo will find yourself in the presence of the same “person” or type. Cults rob people of their individuality, personality and uniqueness and replaces it with the cult “Self”, which implants a cult personality in place of the person’s real self.

    Lies & Deceit ..
    The cult leader(s) is prepared to lie blatantly and obscenely about other individuals (breeders) or organizations (ALA ILA), with total disregard for the truth or any sense of moral objectivity. A frequent tactic by cult leaders is to avert attention from their own sins by accusing others inside or outside their organization of crimes for which they themselves are guilty. ( Oh now this is far too familiar!)Only those who are group members are truly good, sane, wise or sober. Since members loose the faculty of critical judgment and the ability to think for themselves, they never question the lies and distortions of their leader(s). (Makes sense why the supporters seem to ignore many of the ugly truths presented before them).
    Members feel total loyalty to those who have “saved them” and follow in blind obedience (who REFUSE to see the truth!).

    Disturbed Gurus…..
    Cult leaders are often charming, charismatic figures with above average intelligence. The charismatic charmer is one their personalities – a pseudo-personality – Many suffer from borderline, disassociate or multiple personality disorders. (yes…Bev has or possibly still is being treated for mental disorders. She has personally disclosed this information to another breeder over 6 yrs ago).
    Members feel honored to be with, and be seen, around them. But their personality can change dramatically in a flash. Cult leaders are always very disturbed individuals. They are usually victims turned persecutor, having a history of involvement in other social, political or religious cults and/or suffering the effects of a traumatic childhood. Behind their strong and confident exterior (pseudo-personality) they need their leader position to compensate for a very fragile sense of self-worth, self-esteem and self-identity. This is also shown be the fact that they cannot “hack it” in the real world and need to live in a cult/sect environment to live out their problems. Their past histories show social marginality and a tendency to drift from one cause to another, one job to another, one marriage to another, etc. They spend their lives dedicated to their cause (increasing through the Internet, also now). They are obsessive-compulsive, fanatical and emotionally manipulative. Nothing will stand in the way of their visions, schemes and self-glorification – not even the well-being of their partners or children. They manipulate the minds of vulnerable members.

    It’s just a horribly sad sad situaltion

    • Joyce Tabor permalink
      October 26, 2009 1:28 am

      Wow, Mary – that was some post! You did an awful lot of reading and research and you, and others, have pinpointed so much of what is wrong with RM. How sad that a woman this powerful, greedy and manipulative has been brought to light by another woman, who truly has been working hard to save these RM furry victims.

      Debra, Charlotte, Carole, and others that I cannot name, including UK AND US breeders who have had ‘the Bev experience’ can attest to all you have written. Hopefully, all of them will someday come forth and put that ‘stamp’ of truth to finally cause RM’s Cease and Desist! And let us not forget her psychopathic clones because I know there is at least one such type in the US! So scary to see this type of person in action. You really begin to believe it is you that is crazy, not them! Powerful stuff.

    • BRENDA permalink
      October 26, 2009 11:13 pm

      FROM PHILLIP

      Many of the things I have read have been spot on. I have a great respect of the church that she does not belong to. And have found the lies and the deceit to the pubic is so unreal and unbelievable. The supporters of Rutland I can only say please stop and pray,think about all the people that have been taken by her. I was a loyal supporter too. I DID NO WRONG, BANNED from going to the property. What love is this. BUT its true if you take from GODS people you take from GOD himself. I stand with with my partner and all those other poeple that have been taken for a ride on the good ship of lies. Phil.

  11. neutralbystander permalink
    October 26, 2009 3:53 am

    Can you please clarify? Does the response from Michael Tucker mean that Beverley was actually there at some point?

    • StopRutlandManor permalink
      October 26, 2009 8:30 am

      Apparently Beverley has used many names over the years. Beverley claims that she used the name Beverley Kunze to attend the Michael Tucker dog Psychology course and that she graduated. Michael has stated he runs no such course and people do not graduate from his courses and he does not issue diploma’s.
      Beverley may or may not have attended a training day held by Michael, who knows, Beverley has lied about almost everything.
      If she did attend Michael’s course she didn’t take much notice, she has been debarking her dogs for years !
      You don’t have to complete a course to figure out why dogs on puppy farms bark all day and all night!

  12. October 26, 2009 4:23 am

    Mary —

    Outstanding! You have written the best, and most thorough, posting, I could ever imagine, like rain on the desert — for those of us trying to figure out what is “wrong” with Bev. How could someone possibly be like this, in the guise of a professional woman raising great dogs? I’ve done my own research into the Narcissitic Personality Disorder, to good effect in this case, but, clearly, something is “off” here, and you’ve portrayed things in a brilliant, all-encompassing way.

    You mention this:

    “The cult leader(s) is prepared to lie blatantly and obscenely about other individuals (breeders) or organizations (ALA ILA), with total disregard for the truth or any sense of moral objectivity. A frequent tactic by cult leaders is to avert attention from their own sins by accusing others inside or outside their organization of crimes for which they themselves are guilty. ( Oh now this is far too familiar!)”

    And here, I want to add my own personal experience in the hopes of backing this up…..with RM beginning to be closed out of the US market (gee, I wonder why?), attentions turned to Holland in about 2008. I’m a breeder of RM/ TP lines, and I also began sending some of my pups to some great families in The Netherlands….at about the same time that a new breed club formed, with Bev as the breed advisor. I wanted to join and asked in an open letter, what I thought were some honest questions: Where will the club and registration fees go, and what will they be used for, etc. Nothing terribly pointed, considering I would be writing the check, and nothing at all directed at Bev personally. The fallout, in August 2008, was catastrophic. Not only did Bev assault me in public emails to all the other members and fabricate things that I had supposedly done to her (and coerced a few breeders to do likewise…whose names I’ll withhold), she then posted a “WARNING TO HOLLAND” zipper on her website, in which she named me personally, along with a friend of mine in Holland, and said I was buying puppies from a puppy mill in New Zealand, claiming them to be my own, somehow bringing them to New York where I live, and then sending them off wholesale in Holland to her, for sale. (Let’s all calculate the three-continent shipping costs alone, on this little venture, to see if things add up?) She went on to yap in countless private emails, forwarded by friends to me, that my puppies had arrived in Holland sick (something, I guess, that my own vet and the USDA vet inspector, as well as the KLM vet inspector at Schiphol, and even Northwest Airlines failed to notice…..) and were in a pathetic limbo, either dying, or remaining unsold.

    Now knowing the Wanda story, I can see that Bev didn’t have to dig too deep into her pocket to come up with this particular fantasy.

    Amazingly, even though they’ve had their own horrors, there are otherwise good breeders who are reluctant to speak out about this horrendously wicked person for fear that it will somehow “damage the breed”….or more to the point, somehow “damage their businesses.” Fortunately, the breed is in good hands, with the likes of Mary, Charlotte (and God bless Charlotte!!!!!), and lots of others.

    From my perspective, the only thing, at this stage, that stands between the Australian Labradoodle becoming a viable breed, or sidelined to curiosity and not much different from the cockapoo, is Bev herself. So, a note to Bev: Please, retire, de-sex the dogs, and find a better life. We’re all praying for this! I’ll even send you a monthly assist to your pension, if you like.

    In truth, I don’t have any particular sympathy for Bev, she’s a wretch (as Ellie would surely attest). She did make some great contributions to the breed, when she wasn’t paying to have someone shoot them in the head and steal their puppies….and the sooner she leaves the scene, the sooner we can all focus on the Bev legacy (nice dogs!), rather than the Bev reality (sorry, being a Christian man, I can’t say it!).

    Curtis

    • October 26, 2009 8:24 am

      Curtis, thanks for telling( a little) of your experience with Bev.Or should I say OUR experience??

      Lets explain: Curtis’s friend in Holland is me.
      Oh boy…I remember the “WARNING TO HOLLAND”on Bev’s website very well!
      She accused both of us we were selling bucket loads of puppies into Holland.
      She told the world the puppies came from New Zealand and were not from Curtis.
      What lies !
      I am dedicated to the Australian Labradoodle and I will never do anything to harm it!
      So I agree with Curtis. I also am glad there are good breeders and the breed is in good hands of many fine breeders.
      The “news” of RM is known in Holland to…some people think all the breeders are behind RM and their practices.
      I can say and many other breeders in Holland, we do NOT breed back to back…we stick to the rules of the Raad van Beheer.
      I think Bev should get out of her business.

      I thank her for her contribution to it!
      Lets not forget how many people are very happy with their Australian Labradoodle.
      If she was not the person she is…she could have had it all…such a pity…
      Its sad isn’t it?
      In a way I feel for her, and I hope she will make the wise decision to retire.
      May god give her the strength.

      Petra

    • Mary permalink
      October 27, 2009 1:03 pm

      Curtis..I remember clearly the negative campaigning about you on her site..yes..it was a Big Shout Out! I never knew what caused her to do that..but rest assured..I knew it stemmed from her psychopathic behavior and was most likely lies. I am sure people sometimes wonder why we don’t publicly defend ourselves when this happens..but you and I know why.
      It’s insane how it just takes ‘questioning her’ about something as innocent as “where are the fees going to go and what will they be used for” to set off a mass destruction campaign against you. Then you go crazy wondering what the heck did you do! Given her extreme states of paranoia fueled by her own evil deeds ..she viewed your questioning as ‘You are starting not to trust her and some questioning can lead to more questioning”. This makes her too uncomfortable, therefore in her “‘mind” she needs to destroy you. The part, like Joyce eluded too, it leaves you feeling like you must be going crazy..because you have no idea what you did wrong to her! All you did was ask a normal innocent question.

      I remember about 8 yrs ago, when I 1st inquired about buying an adult dog from her. I was not familiar with currency conversions or transaction fees imposed on the buyer too, for international credit card transaction fees. I paid her a $5000 downpayment on a credit card for this adult female. I had trouble making sense of my statement as far as the total amt which ended up to be somewhere around $5300. Before I contacted the CC company for an explanation, I figured I would confirm with Bev that the amt charged was indeed for $5000 and that a mistake was not made on her part. Well…in hindsight, that was my beginning to the road to hell and back. She took offense to my question and accused me of accusing her of being an unethical business person, implying that I thought she intentionally charged me more than agreed upon. I remember almost falling off my chair in astonishment..wondering “Where did that response come from”!
      But you see…she tolerated my question at that time…because she hadn’t been paid in full yet. But when it came time to get ready to ship this female snd send final payment..I found out through the grapevine..that this females’s mother was diagnosed with HD. I know because the a breeder in the states owned the mother and she felt obligated to tell me
      I also found out that this female had very very small litters, which Bev lied about and scolded me for investigating behind her back. Imagine that!
      Knowing this was a huge investment and I knew my $5000 deposit was non-refundable, I decided not to go through with the purchase of this particular female stating my reasons were..”I did not want to start my foundation program with a female whose mom was diagnosed with HD . I figured since I was not just changing my mind for no good reason she would understand. Well..Bev didn’t think that my reasons were good enough and would not refund me my deposit. Her exact words were ‘You Americans are just HD fanatics!”
      I was advised by a breeder who knew Bev all to well, that I could possibly recover my money..if I was willing to eat crow, say I am sorry and then praise her and tell her how wonderful she is ..
      My story continues and reveals the unimaginable, .that still to this day haunts me..but for now I will say no more..
      Please know that you have my sympathy and I would never wish my Bev experience, your experience and the experiences of many others on anyone! It’s truely from the deepest pit of hell!

      Yes..there are people who have good expereinces with RM..but I can guarantee you..it’s because they didn’t ask the ‘right’ questions that made her nervous. It’s the smart ‘buyer beware’ conscentious type person ,who looks beyond the glossy web-site and marketing hype, that Bev fears the most (but she will take your money 1st and then DEAL with you later). Bev wants to do business with the people who thinks SHE is the Way , The Truth and the Light, therefore feels, she doesn’t deserve questioning. Besides…who would question God

      One valuable life lesson learned, that came out of my experience was…
      How NOT to treat customers !

      Thank you Curtis and Petra for having the courage to standup for the truth. It will only stand to serve you well.
      I pray that other breeders have the same courage too and can get beyond the fear, that telling their story may somehow affect their business in a negative way.
      This abuse to both people and animals..Has to stop!
      The general population is intolerant to this type of abuse and it will serve breeders well to speak out.
      I have received numerous E-mails from past RM customers (who know who I am) thanking me for the courage to speak up and are greatful that the future of the ALD is in the hands of ethical breeders who are willing to stand up to the truth.

  13. heike allison permalink
    October 26, 2009 5:23 am

    Yes Wow is right!! Sadly enough Joyce, I believe there is not just one of these people, but two or more. Unfortuately she has built her personal wealth and financial wealth on the backs of her dogs. Without them what would she have to offer the world?? The problem with this type of person is she will and can be giving, this is the HooK, but the cost is unwaivering dedication and loyalty, to sweep under the rug any misgivings one may have, to lie and defend the lies. To create an alternative world that she and her followers must live in, for to see any of the truth would mean they too were living a lie and defending someone that would do harm (and she did) to the dogs they love. This formula can be seen repeatly in history by various cults across the globe, many of them being religious, a need to want to believe and as Mary has stated changing the facts to support the cause against overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Both Bev and her daughter profess to Love their dogs, but their actions tell another story. The list is long and well documented and there isn’t a rug big enough to sweep it all under.

    • Joyce Tabor permalink
      October 27, 2009 6:46 pm

      Correct. There are just some lines I cannot cross. What Angela did was reprehensible and there are many breeders that have forgiven her – but I am not one of them. After commiting such an atrocity, a person such as this should never ever be allowed to breed dogs again. She is erecting yet another website and has pups for sale – please God, do not allow this to succeed.

      Both mother and daughter need to find different work – perhaps making license plates.

  14. October 26, 2009 9:12 am

    Cannot help but state the simple TRUTH! Puppy farmers continuously lie to cover up their dreadful deeds towards consumers and the innocent dogs that they use as factory machines for profit in their pockets. Even more disturbing, is the uncertainty of where Wanda’s daughter Rutlands Happy Wanderer is. My goodness, I do hope that Happy is not in the hands of another puppy farmer such as ACA or Valley View? Also, good on the Security Guard for speaking up for the dogs and telling the truth of what you witnessed, whilst contracted to work at Rutland Manor. I commend you.

  15. heike allison permalink
    October 26, 2009 6:26 pm

    To bystander, please reread the response from MT clearly, he stated he did not know a Beverley “MANNERS” and did NOT run a dog psychology course, nor does he graduate anyone. Pretty easy to see the embellishment and truth twisting in this one. Question, If I take a science class does that make me a scientist????

  16. Lisa Ryan permalink
    October 27, 2009 8:48 pm

    Talk about truth twisting and embellishment and extreme case of we are desperate but still not prepared to focus on the facts or the dogs !

    For these RM groupies to try and discredit a highly noted and respected dog trainer like Michael Tucker is just lunacy and completely lacking of any professionalism . So Bev may have attended a day of two of one of Michael’s training seminars some 30 odd years ago. Not sure what age Michael is but his mind and credibility and reputation cannot be questioned, unlike Beverly Manners or her groupies. Bev did not attend or graduate or receive any accreditation from any Michael Tucker dog psychology course and yet proclaims to the world she did and that she is the great guru. These are the facts !

    And for the record Michael doesn’t “babble” he refers to his Border Collie not Boarder Collie as quoted by those who think they know, because they blindly believe and follow all, but still remain so very silent – as silent as the debarked RM dogs !

    As for the Monash University email from a PHD student – well is this the conformation to be accepted by intelligent, educated people ?. An email from a student making enquiries (before the truth was exposed) or from Dr Simon Barrett, Manager Research Ethics and Compliance, Monash University Research Office , Monash University who states “Monash University is not conducting any research at Rutland Manor nor in association with Rutland Manor”. These are the facts !

    Note no reply possible re RM being bankrupt. Wonder how they will truth twist and embellish that one on the sultana brand or is it rotten/sour grapes of investigative journalism website !

  17. heike allison permalink
    October 28, 2009 12:31 am

    Does the word Grandiose thinking come to mind here;
    Roget’s II: Thesaurus defines grandiosity as “boastful self-importance or display” and offers the words “ostentation,” “pomposity” and “pretension” to further illustrate this definition. In short, it is an exaggerated sense of one’s importance, power, knowledge or identity. It often has religious overtones. The term “grandiosity” is used to describe the larger-than-life feelings of superiority.
    It is obvious the dogs were used to bolster her needs, not the other way around. The dogs come first!!!

  18. Elise permalink
    October 28, 2009 12:41 am

    Dear All,

    I’m the import agent who has the privilege to meet the puppies from Curtis at their arrival whenever he sends them to Holland. I can assure you that all puppies arrive safe and sound and foremost in excellent health !

    I’m a pet shipper in general and indeed it is impossible to send of “dying ” puppies. From the USA, puppies need 1) rabies vaccination 21 days prior to arrival . Which of course could only have been given by a licensed vet. 2) A general health certificate which will only be given after a full health examination again done by a licensed vet . This certificate may not be older than 10 days. 3)Then an EU health certificate must be issued 1 day prior to arrival which must be done by yet again a licensed vet and this time even under the watchful eye of the state veterinarian of the USDA . Yet again a health examination of the puppies ! A state veterinarian of the USDA will not ever sign of if the animal in question is sick or even dying ! Than at the airport in the Netherlands they will be offloaded by the highly qualified KLM attendants. Than at the KLM Animal Hotel the puppies will be cared for by them and myself and if animals would be sick or even dying we would notice , believe me. Than our Dutch state veterinarian will check them and their papers and yes they are also highly qualified and would have seen if these puppies were sick or even dying.

    And yes the three continent journey would have been a verry costly afair and therefor not worth it .

    The negativity that Bperson has created around the Australian Labradoodle breed of whom she is a co-founder –B are you aware that you are one of the co-founders ?- has a negative effect in Holland as well . Breeders of other breeds are having a field day with this to them it’s now absolutely proven it’s just a mutt . And worse ,many call it a fraud. B are you aware that you yourself , co-founder of the breed, fighter for the breed are helping them to still call the Australian Labradoodle a mutt even a fraud ? For what have you been striding for all these years ? You –co founder- are making it impossible for this beautiful breed to be acknowledged as such. Are you aware of this ?

    B , I have the same opinion as Curtis please retire and let us enjoy the legacy of the good RM dogs . But most off all set your dogs free so they can retire as well and being cared for by loving families . Let other good breeders such as Curtis, Charlotte and Petra take over to put “your” breed further on the map and have it given the status it so deserves, everywhere ! They didn’t take it away from you , they believe in it as much as you once did and they want to care for it as much as you once did. All are still mentioning you as a co-founder and are proud of it .( For how long ,still ?) For yourself , don’t destroy such an honorable place…………..be free………..set your dogs free…………..

    Kind regards to all,

    Elise

  19. heike allison permalink
    October 28, 2009 7:22 am

    Lola your spin isn’t working, Wanda is still referenced as a rescue dog with NO documented history!! Why do you now claim she has a history, with a so called known dam and sire, coming from a breeder. This is rubbish and you know it. Wanda was a pound puppy pure and simple, bred back to back and Happy, the daughter was kept as another breeder. There is no excuse for breeding a rescued dog for 55 puppies!!!!!

  20. silva permalink
    November 17, 2009 9:13 pm

    There is also no excuse for pretending that dogs are in Guardian Homes when they are kept in her kennels. Have a look at this http://www.rutlandmanor.com/pages/gallery/onyx-with-his-best-mate-dan949.php
    This must be one of the most ham-handed uses of Photoshop I’ve ever seen.
    Rutland Manor is a FRAUD.

  21. Lisa Ryan permalink
    November 18, 2009 1:18 am

    Yes – pretty bad photo fraud indeed. Very sloppy, and again so very dishonest and manipulated, like every single thing associated with RM and Beverly Manners always has been, and always will be.

  22. silva permalink
    November 18, 2009 8:33 am

    I wonder who the boy and the original dog are? What a cheek, Onyx head and paw have been cut out and pasted over some lucky black dog who is living in a family home. Looks like something was dangling from the original dog’s mouth too, maybe a ball?
    What has she done to this puppy’s eyes?
    http://www.rutlandmanor.com/pages/gallery/gold-girl-1-again1034.php
    And WHY?

  23. heike allison permalink
    November 19, 2009 9:15 am

    Oh my, this is the worst photo shop pic I have ever seen!! Trying to pass off her dogs in guardian homes!! From the looks of her NEW and improved website, she has gone to great lengths to coverup what we all know has been the truth for so long. Whatever she has recreated to further along her continual puppy farming, the sad fact is it will go on. Apparently puppy farming is legal in Australia and unless the authorites see otherwise she can and will continue as well as others who make their living off the backs of innocent dogs. Really sad!!

  24. Beth permalink
    November 22, 2009 11:39 am

    How stupid does this woman think the public is!! That is the worst cut and paste I have ever seen!! A child could do better!! I think I’ll stick to my common mongrel who by the way is treated far better than any RM so called pedigree dogs!!

  25. heike allison permalink
    December 19, 2009 11:11 am

    Hmmm, page not found, she removed it!!! Replaced that one with another. Quick change artist at best!!

  26. Heather permalink
    December 27, 2009 12:13 am

    Does anyone have any information about Beverley’s daughter? Are her breeding practices ethical?

    • Joyce Tabor permalink
      December 27, 2009 3:59 pm

      Hi,

      The best course for you to take to make your OWN assumptions is to ask for proven testing on the parents, grandparents, etc. (that is to actually see the results on the organizations letterhead, NOT what is claimed). Also to see the actual pedigree (s) and then ask for clients that also have these same pedigrees that you can call or ask questions about their dog and what their experience was like dealing with Angela. Ask the same questions on forums to get a ‘public opinion’. Then, if all is well, go with your gut.

      Many of us here have our own opinions based on much reading, exposure and personal experiences. Do your homework!!! I can’t stress this enough. If you would like my personal opinion of some of the things I know that she has done, you may email me privately and I would be happy to share.

      • March 7, 2010 5:32 am

        I have given a false name – only to protect myself as I have been legally threatened by this Beverly mess of a woman !!
        I bought a horse off her many many years ago, although the horse was in good health she decided to ‘up’ the price from what she had advertised by $2000 (isnt that illegal?). She also said that the mare had all DNA tests done etc… we later found out she hadnt had any of them done at all, this then costing us thousands in running around, vets etc.
        By golly did she hit the roof when I asked her to at least go halves in the fee’s for the testing… totally went nuts and threatned legal action – What on earth for ? I hadnt done anything at all wrong.
        This woman is crazy.
        I feel very very sorry for her dogs, no one can manage dogs properly when you have that many on them.
        A ‘Pedigree’ is a registered certificate endorsed by the Australian National Kennel Council. The ANKC do not recognise this breed or any other oodle poo’s iers as actual breeds. So that means her ‘Pedigree’s’ are false and misleading anyhow. She could put who ever she wants on those pedigree’s. All fool to those who believe them.
        Responsible breeders wait until the bitch is around 14months old prior to having a litter and then give her a break inbetween, which is at least 9 months. Then completing her breeding time at no more than 3 litters total.
        Any more than this and back to back is just cruel and the RSPCA should be putting a HUGE stop to this.
        I feel sorry to ALL the people who have given RM and BM any of there hard earned money, you have been totally ripped off. A stunning purebred dog that has had all relevent breed testing, hips and elbows etc tested – can be bought for much less that her cross bred mutts.

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s

%d bloggers like this: