Born in the USA
Rutland Manor breeds for the preservation of my unique ASD Australian Labradoodle breed and not to supply a ‘puppy market’. Each dog and each puppy is an individual and precious creature deserving of loving attention one on one. We do not have a lot of dogs. We breed because it is our passion , not to churn out puppies to meet demand. Beverley Manners 2010
Beverley you are so right! Each dog and puppy IS an individual precious creature deserving of loving attention.
Therefore is it loving to breed back to back with no rest in between litters? Is it loving to make sure all your “lovely ladies” DECIDED to honeymoon at the same time so you could export them in whelp to Texas to save a few dollars? Is it ethical to get your Texan connection to lobby the host of this site to take it down to prevent the truth getting out to the public?
Unless you’ve been to Rutland Manor you would not know looking at the Honeymoon Cove page, that the photos were not taken at RM. Those of us that have been there and still have “connections” could plainly see the dogs had whelped somewhere else. We have worked hard over the last few weeks (RM Office leaks like a sieve) and can now confirm the dogs are in Texas USA. Why the secrecy? Perhaps Beverley deep down knows how heartless it actually is to do this to these precious dogs and she doesn’t want you to know.
How many hours in a crate did these pregnant dogs endure for a few extra lousy dollars. Its always about the money isn’t it.
Rutland Manor wants the European market (especially Holland), its where the money is, however to export a puppy from USA to Europe is cheaper that exporting from Australia.
When will they be rested and given respite from their life as a breeding machine. Why isn’t the consumer told the truth ? Does anyone really want to buy into this cruelty any longer. Will the dogs be flown back to Australia once they have weaned their puppies or will they stay in Texas and be mated with Akubra? Don’t be fooled Rutland Manor are breeding to supply a market and will look for any way to save a dollar even if it means pregnant dogs spend days in crates being flown around the world as commodities.
When will the madness end ? = when the consumer is provided with the truth and makes the ethical decision.
Rutland Manor Exposed 
I would like to know who the Texas connection is. Would you please email me so that I can forward this info to other US breeders. Many of us would like to avoid doing any type of business with RM.
Funny, there was a time when RM would shout to the rooftops about having an ‘extension’ in the US. Now it appears she is keeping it very quiet. What is she hiding now?
well Joyce..if history repeats itself..her USA enterprise will fail anyways. The best way for Bev to loose a long time supporter, Twyla or whoever, is to set up a business venture with them.
Beverley is a shady lady. I kept wondering how I saw U.S. breeders selling puppies who’s sires were supposedly in Australia– I guess I can stop pondering over that now.
She’ll probably say Jesus made her do it… just more of the same bs from her.
I am in Europe and have been offered a puppy of the current litters and I was wondering already why the costs for shipping had gone up for more $600 but didn’t have a clue that the dogs were not in Australia. So I am wondering now why do we need to pay $ 600 more for shipping when the flight is only half the distance?????
Beverley is in Texas staying at Twyla’s. She will be trying to recoup the money for her flight and the dogs flight – hence why she is charging extra for shipping even though she is saving money on shipping all the puppies from the USA.
There is no shame to the woman! Poor bloody dogs 😦
Surprise surprise.I hope all Labradoodle breeders spread this information far and wide across the US and European markets and shut off this dishonest and cruel woman’s supply permanently. These poor bloody dogs. Once a puppy farmer, always a puppy farmer and all those assisting and continuing to turn a blind eye, you are all no better. Don’t ever tell me you all love dogs. You are all dog pimps and callous cruel ones at that.
Okay so Beverly doesn’t sell her puppies through pet shops, Just wondering why she needs to breed her dogs back to back, Beverly your still a puppy farmer whether here in Australia or America. Beverly your dogs pedigrees are about as good as mine and I am so proud to call her mongrel.
Yup, Twyla is her connection!! And she sold/gave her an intact dog Akubra to carry on the puppy mill here in the USA. Bet she thought she wouldnt be found out!!
Beverleys website went offline right after this story was posted, being updated?
Whats the bet she will now come out and admit she is in Texas along with her dogs and that Texan Twyla is taking over the breeding !!
Umm 100%. Not doubt in my mind on this one!!! Twyla has been her numero one suppporter and has an intact dog Akubra!! /She was being groomed for this for quite a while. And maybe to take the heat off of Bev in Australia. But, guess what America doesn’t like puppy farmers either!!! We will not go away and will keep up the heat here if necessary, so Bev you can run and you can hide but we will find you and your puppy farming wherever you goooooooo.
Well I gues with the TP and RM legacy Texan Twyla will go broke very quickly – maybe she will change the name along with the website ! I wonder if she inherits all Beverly’s debts and law suits as well ?
One can only hope, :))
http://www.rutlandmanor.com/pages/australian-labradoodle-founder-rutland-manor/rutland-manor-australian-labradoodles/visit-us.php
Eileen Helen Leith Kerrie are kept by the labour of the bitches, quite literally.
There are a lot of people on the poor bitches payroll and its the dogs that pay not Beverley. Is there a minimum legal pay rate in Australia? No wonder there are leaks, I can’t see how these poor dogs will bring in enough to keep staff in luxury. When RM finishes moving to Texas will the human workers be layed off, and only the pregnant bitches and their mates stay in work?
Bev has made promise after promise to all of her staff at some point – to tell them THEY will inherit the RM Breeding Program once she is finished with it!!!!
Twyla is the “Lottery Winner”.
What a joke
Will Twyla keep their coats in good condition and keep their ears clean??? How do the US people feel about de-barked dogs?
Will Twyla and her husband take on all the debt, legal problems and Bev’s “Issues”?
There will need to be MANY MANY Puppies churned out now to keep all of these people in Australia with an income!!!
I wonder if Twyla and Mike will also oversee the intimidation, bullying and threats!!!!!!
http://www.rutlandmanor.com/pages/australian-labradoodle-founder-rutland-manor/rutland-manor-australian-labradoodles/visit-us.php
There is now a note from Beverley on her website but still no information to us, the families in waiting, that the puppies are already in the US.
Our questions are not being answered…..
Is this fair to treat the clients like this?
I took a look at the note from Beverley and the pictures from Texas.
My attention was caught by a picture showing a man (Twyla’s husband?) napping next to the welping box….
Take a close look at the picture and what you can see in the background….a cash register….how conveniant….
And I wonder how well breeding dogs goes together with running a paintball park with all the noise from these “hobby” soldiers….
Beverly doesn’t care about “clients” or her dogs. Beverly’s time and energy is only invested into her own image and ego, her website, pumping out puppies to keep the $$$ coming in, nuturing her cult of followers and using others’ to try and bully and intimidate anyone who dares to tell the truth.
Twyla takes very good care of her dogs, this I know. As far as intimidation, she can go toe to toe with the best of them, I have seen this happen to a friend of mine. Bev and Twyla are kindred spirits, have similar religious beliefs that make them feel above it all. After all Bev calls this her ministry not a puppy mill. So what if her dogs are bred back to back, so what if she sends pregnant bitches across the world, so what if she debarks her dogs to quell the complaints, it’s all a ministry isn’t it?? It’s God’s work that is important, not the dogs……All I can say these women are very self rightous and delusional and the God they serve is one of money and ego.
I don’t know Twyla or how she cares for her own dogs however anyone at all who becomes aware at the slightest possibility of animals cruelty, neglect and full blown abuse, as has been the case with the RM dogs, and then turns a blind eye to it all, is no better. To me Twyla is every bit as guilty as is every single person who has turned their spineless backs on the RM dogs for years. As for the religious beliefs, these beliefs are based on power, greed and ego. Twyla showed her true colours with her behaviour while in Australia. If Bev and Twyla are kindred spirits – that says it all !
I do know how Twyla cares for her dogs! I just spent a week in Texas with her and Mike and let me tell you those dogs are better cared for than most people I know! Every one of those dogs were in fantastic condition and very happy! The whole 80 something acres is spotless and very well groomed! There are no dogs cooped up in dirty kennels and no matted or sickly dogs. They run in huge pens all day if not free to roam the completely fenced in property and most of them sleep on comfy beds in the house!
Twyla and Mike are extremely loving and caring people and treat all of those dogs as family members.
I don’t what Rutland Manor in Australia looked like but I can certainly vouch for Texas! If RM in Australia was so bad, then you really should commend Beverley for moving the dogs to Texas because it truly is a puppy paradise! I would never condone or “turn a blind eye” to animal abuse or cruelty and if even the remote possibility of abuse was going on I would have reported it no matter who the abuser! I hope this can ease some minds in knowing that whatever the RM dogs have been through in the past, they are truly in paradise now and happy as little clams!! Thanks for reading.
I have said before Twyla does take good care of her dogs, this is not in question. The real issue here she is carrying on the deceit of Beverley. The ASD is not a pure pedigreed dog, but mainly a poodle with a few other breds of unknown origins mixed in. Her pedigrees are just plain false and she has used dogs from other puppy farmers as well, trade paper dogs, dogs from the pound, you name it. Made up names, made up pedigrees…..all a crock.
Heike, I am having a really hard time in understanding why pedigrees are so important to you. The AKC does not recognize the Labradoodle as a breed. Please correct me if I’m wrong, but as I understand it, a pedigree only means something if you are competing in dog shows or are a breeder. I have had pedigreed dogs before and it meant nothing to me. I loved my dogs regardless of where they came from. They were pets and family members. No one ever even asked me or cared about pedigree. When you get a puppy at the pound, it doesn’t come with papers. Are any Labradoodles pure pedigreed dogs? Aren’t they a cross between a Poodle and a Labradoodle and a few other breeds as well thrown in the mix? I’m just very confused about all of this. I have an RM dog and he is the most amazing dog I’ve ever known! He’s healthy and strong, smart and sweet and I love him more than anything in my life! It’s the dog that is important and adored, not his papers. And if I had to do it all over again, I would have paid thousands upon thousands of dollars for him whether his pedigree was real or not. Please help me to understand why pedigrees are so important? Thanks.
Kathleen, I don’t think the focus on pedigree being discussed here is for the reasons you are stating. It’s more on the lines of all the lies and deception behind the dogs that make up the pedigree and a worst nightmare for those breeding RM/TP dogs since you really can’t trust the pedigree to know who you are breeding to. Many people know there is alot of great RM labradoodles out there as you have stated yours is.
If you paid big money for a Pre-owned Certified Volvo. It runs fantastic, no problems at all, looks super clean, but only to find out that this dealer purchases his so called certified Preowned Volvos from a salvage yard, rolls the milage back, changes the vin numbers, retitles the vehicles, etc…. that all that would set well with you?
Just curious?
BTW ..I own 3 RM dogs that are retired breeders.
hi mary…
pedigrees are important, they are something that are vetted by an authority outside the animal breeder. You cannot register the offspring of an animal if the breeding has not met some basic management criteria… like back to back breeding of the dam… two litters in an 18 month period is the standard, not one every 6 months as appears to be the standard with Beverley…
Beverley produces her pedigrees as a statement on what two animals have produced… if you have been breeding as long as she states she has, then you can pretty much know what two animals are likely to produce together, what colours,what possible temperaments etc… you know how many puppies might be likely, because you have seen the mother, the grandmother the great grandmother etc… that is the bonus with recognised pedigrees… the owner can’t change them…unfortuneatley Beverelys pedigrees are fiction, with no outside authentication… because she answers to no-one… and abuses those who question her…
a wise stud manager once told me… if i am looking to purchase a stud animal… don’t just ask what the animals good points are, ask what their faults are… if the breeder can’t tell you… then don’t purchase the animal because they should know their animals well enough to know their faults. But thats right, Beverley’s made up her standard and changes it as she likes, and no ohthe breeder has the right to judge the standard because she is the founder… well that says a lot i think!
Kathleen, I bought dogs I thought had papers, papers that had their ancestors on them, ancestors that I believed to be labradoodles, period. I paid 2500 a piece for these dogs. Yes my dogs are nice dogs, however my dogs are NOT even Labradoodles, they are mainly POODLES, had I not found out about all this site I would have never known. Don’t go telling me how wonderful this dog is and that dog is, because it’s not the point. I was lied to by a very nice breeder here, because she didn’t know either that the papers she was giving me were crap. Now, why on earth would I spend 2500 on a dog that was just a soup of unknown origins???? Why does this matter, well there are hundreds of reasons and health being the first and most important!!! Second, I can get a poodle cross anywhere for a hell of alot less. Better yet I could get a pedigreed Poodle from a reputable breeder, had I known. This whole scam Bev and her daughter put on the world is the point. She is not a reputable breeder, she is a con artist and a dog abuser and I for one would not and will not let that slide by. Now you get the point???
It was Beverleys Plan – years ago – to ask or suggest to Twyla that Bev move some dogs to texas. All that remained after the seed was planted was to feed Twyla anough information to make her beleive Bev was ‘Genuine”.
Poor Twyla – unfortunately she has had the wool pulled over her eyes as so many have had in the past.
She will see the truth – as time goes on – just like we all did
Yeah poor Twyla – my heart bleeds for her !
I wonder if anyone knows? Now that the RM dogs are in Texas would they have to go into quarantine if they were sent back to Australia? This looks increasingly like a permanent move to the States and the end of Rutland Manor’s Australian Labradoodles.
She may be doing business in Texas as silent business partner. She has done this before..but the business relationship always ends in disaster
Any dogs coming into Australia must be quarantined for 4 weeks even if they intially came from Australia. Any dog coming in also must undergo a series of tests and vaccinations first to ensure disease not present in Australia is not brought in. It is for these RM dogs now in Texas no doubt a permanent move however only another murky chapter for RM. It is the same dogs and the same highly questionable pedigrees and the same business motivation of lets make some $$$.
A good survey from Lisa Ryan! Are people still buying Bev’s puppies?Surely the word is out, its all a great big scam.
11 years of breeding not 22,
puppy mill not research center
poor sad dogs bred with no believable pedigrees
dreadful health statistics
and now Bev has turned her back on her loyal employees and sold them out to the Texans. Why don’t they turn their backs on her now.
Suprise suprise, Akubra is listed as a breeding stud on her website!!
Isn’t it strange, no where on her site can I find the admission of bringing her dogs to Texas and continuing the Legacy of Rutlands Manor, odd I’d say.
Heike, it is not clearly stated but an attentive reader will find it here:
http://www.rutlandmanor.com/pages/australian-labradoodle-founder-rutland-manor/visit-us.php
Scroll down to “A Special Love Note from Beverley”
Yes, I saw the letter, balderdash I say, her ministry!!!! What kind of ministry involves the abuse of animals????? I just hope against all hopes the new era of breeding won’t involve back to back breeding, debarking of dogs and most of all the admission her dogs are nothing more than mostly poodle with a smidgen of other breeds…….false pedigrees not worth the paper they have been written on. One can only hope I guess.
Unbelievable stuff here. My family and I were looking for a labradoodle and now I’m a little confused. I wanted what I read about? Non shedding, wavy fleeced standard LABRADOODLE. How can I get what I wanted?
Mitch – SORRY – no such thing. Do yourself a favour and invest in a good poodle. Lovely intelligent dogs. There are several in pounds and in rescue I could refer to you – all lovely dogs, all needing good homes and all will cost you about $250 – desexed, microchipped, wormed and vaccinated.
Does this mean they do shed?
Its all about appearance. These are all poodles
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=unclipped+poodle&rls=com.microsoft:en-gb:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=&redir_esc=&ei=iqrOS-kBlLLSBOub6dsP
They aren’t unclipped of course, just groomed how their owners want them. Both poodles and “australian labradoodles” need clipping and grooming regularly or sore ears and mats will cause suffering.
Beverley Manner’s lies have left a trail of broken lives behind her over the years, not all of those lives are dogs.
I hope that in our love of the dogs we do not forget the plight of RM’s deserted workers, I apologise to them for being one of the causes of the loss of their jobs.
hi all
one of the arguments used for a labradoodle was the low allergy factor exhibited by many poodles, but not all… if bev is now infusing irish wheatens and the like, then even this will be unbelievable… and where is she getting her breeding dogs from… no stud breeder would sell an entire male for breeding purposes outside of their own breed… which means she is probably using sub standard unregistered animals who do not even meet the criteria for stud in their own breeds.. so much for her own standards
best wishes
alison
I hope nobody forgets what Beverley did to Ellie. Both Angela and Beverley had too many people involved at the time who have kept quiet but the time will come and the truth will be told. Shame on that woman. How can she sleep at night knowing what she did? How can she sleep at night at all. There were other horrible things that happened too. Things that God would never condone.
Gina, Elaborate
Mitch you can read about Ellie here
hi all,
i just started to read Beverleys website again… and her inconsistencies continue to amaze me… does she think that know one remembers or keeps copies of what she writes for later use… or that no-one cares?? At the bottom of her rutland manor australia and usa page comes the statement…
“After living on my little five acres for the past two years, the Doodles are in heaven on eighty acres, exploring the woods and swimming in the streams…”
Hold on, i thought she had been living on Roberts Road for years and all the problems she had been having with the neighbours was caused by people in new houses and subdivisions.. and inconvenient truth obviously….
best wishes alison
Wanted to share some information about Knossos, a dog which has been bred to every bitch within reach. There are many, many documented cases of Knossos puppies having congenital birth defects involving circulatory systems and heart defects.
If Knossos is not ill himself, he certainly is carrying some dangerous genes. There are currently two people who will be taking legal action in regards to the sick puppies they ended up with.
Beverley is well aware of these sick Knossos puppies and continues to breed him anywhere she can. She is a sick, sick woman, I don’t know what kind of “ministry” she thinks she’s operating– but she clearly is one of those hypocritical religious extremists who thinks if she talks Jesus all the time, that’ll make it all okay. Good luck in hell Beverley.
And make sure y’all steer clear of any Knossos litters!
Can you give me any information on Knossos litters? What kinds of illness the pup have. Do you know of a place I can look this information up? I have been searching for some time. I have found one lady who had a Knossos pup with health problems. Thanks.
I’m wondering now even more about Knosses. Her breeding dogs have suddenly disapeared from her website but it used to say Highland Mist Knosses so that means he isn’t an RM dog? He looks like a Poodle anyway. Is there a Highland Mist breeder? Is the problem in him, or in Ava? How many litters have they had? This all sickens me and infuriates me. There was another dog named Anya who was said to be Ava’s sister? Does she exist? how many litter has she had. This is all very confusing. It always seems like she is hiding everything. I guess the people who have RM Labradoodles actually have very expensive rescue dogs.
Maybe Kathleen will now understand the need for accurate ancestoral documentation, given the puppies born with PDA from the Knossos litters……..then again, as long as her puppy is ok maybe she just doesn’t give a darn…..
hi all, have been doing some more investigations… i think if you are going to try and prove the lack of “character” or ethics in a person then you investigate some of their definituve statements. i had contacted the department of justice in NSWs australia, then subsequently with State Records Authority of NSW in
relation to records of justices of the peace, and magistrates. interestingly so far, there is no record of a Francis Manners being a JP up until 1935… i have been trying to work out the time frame that he would have been one if Beverley is actually 70 this year… does anyone else have any ideas???
best wishes
alison
I’m glad someone else is looking into the actual records of the puppy farms. This site gave me the courage to post what I know in my own blog. http://farmsofshame.wordpress.com/
U, read your blog, nice to see some documentation of the link to the Hamms and Bev and her daughters dog business. We all knew this was true but this really seals the deal!!!! The pedigrees are worthless.
Thank you Heike, someone unknown had linked to Doodle Zoo and I have posted on there in reply http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=228724;article=860464;title=The%20Doodle%20Zoo%21 . Its horrifying that they treat wholesale dog farming as a joke, but I am sure that there must be good people on there that take a different view.
I’m sad that so many people have been taken in by the confidence trickster mother and daughter at Rutland Manor and Tegan Park, it’s the dogs that have suffered and will carry on suffering.
I hope to be able to publish more with the evidence to prove it all. I will not rush to publish, it has got to be correct.
See you on
http://farmsofshame.wordpress.com/
Beverely’s so-called friends may continue to chat on her chat page, but in reality she has no idea the kind of bomb about to be dropped on her by those “friends”.
Oh I have no doubt Beverly is very busy on her emails again (as she does) with threats and more attempts to intimidate to try and cover her murky past. Lies always surface over time and this self promoting and egotistical woman and her colleagues and family in this vile trade of what is nothing more than animal abuse not to mention the countless numbers of the public and other breeders who have been ripped off for decades must be stopped.
hi folks, was just reading some entries from “Kate, Yarra and Yindi” in america, on the doodle zoo website… she was saying her new import from Rutland Manor was ten weeks old and it appeared to be back with her in america. i think this is against the exportation regulations from australia… i could be wrong but i thought puppies had to be 16 weeks before they could be exported and travel overseas??? is this the case?
best wishes
alison
I am sure one of her trolls are keeping tabs on here and then posting onto the doodlezoo and her chat page as well. We will never be able to convince everyone even if we had pictures of her with a gun shooting her own dog. Some people will only see what they want to see and have a financial interest not to believe the truth. Some are bound to her by their childish religious bonds and think they are above it all. The rest of us that have seen the light and love animals more than the humans that abuse them are here.
Would Kathleen Crawford please contact Twyla and ask her to get Banksia to release Billie and Bobbi Joe to proper homes. Can Twyla prove herself?
It does not matter if Twyla takes good care of her dogs – she turned her back on the RM dogs because it suited her to do so – what does that say about the ethics of a breeder. She has also turned her back on the false pedigrees – what does that say about the ethics of a breeder ?
The pedigrees are important Kathleen for the reasons outlined by Heike and Mary and also because an accurate pedigree is the key to any health issues which any purchaser and dog owner is entitled to know in advance. The RM dogs are a surprise package which can and often does turn into heartbreak and huge expense for innocent families and/or breeders.
Lisa you haven’t got a clue what you’re saying! Twyla has NOT turned her back on the RM dogs! She is doing everything in her power to set things straight! These kinds of things don’t happen overnight. Twyla has not turned her back on false pedigrees either. I’m not going to explain it again.
As far as pedigrees go, I guess I’ve just rescued most of my animals from the pound and they don’t come with pedigrees. No one knows where they came from so it’s not important to me. I wouldn’t turn my back on a dog just because his pedigree is false or non existent. You guys seem to talk out of both sides of your mouths. You don’t seem to really care about the dogs, if you did you would be supportive of Twyla. You just seem to care who can bash Beverley the most. Next time I go to the pound to rescue a dog I’ll be sure to let them know that Lisa, Heike and Mary told me I’m entitled to papers so I don’t get heartbroken!!
For everyone’s information Kathleen Crawford has recently purchased “Henry” from Rutland Manor. Henry is from the Kirstie and Onyx litter.
As we all know Kirstie is one of the breeding machines at Rutland Manor and has been illegally bred back to back – 3 litters all in the last 12 months plus others.
Kathleen is nothing more than a link in the RM chain of cruelty, ignoring the suffering and cruelty all because she wanted a ‘cute fluffy puppy”.
Her suggestions of going to the pound to “rescue” a dog are therefore questionable as is her motivation for posting on this site.
No Kathleen,
it means when you get a dog from the pound you a getting a known thing….ie little is definitively known about the animals background… you accept that when you get the animal… if you are presented with what is supposed to be a definitive breeding line as a pedigree… with the aim of continued breeding, or getting a known temperament or standard you are entitled to a garuntee that it is true, not contrived, or changed at a whim. It is a contract you enter into with the breeder, who can be held accountable. It is also a statement on the ethics of the breeder. Which is one of the problems here. A little investigation into Rutland Manors standards, ethics and background show that there is a pattern of duplicity, low morals and little ethics that can’t be brushed aside.
Besides all of that… Why on earth would you pay such incredible amounts of money for a dog if you weren’t expecting a difinitive thing… if you aren’t… then go to any one who crosses a labrador with a poodle…the pound, anywhere… and spend the money you save on the purchase on feeding a starving, malnourished child in Haiti, or supporting any orphanage in Asia, or india… or perhaps your own community
It makes me laugh in a sad sort of way because I wasn’t disagreeing with you people I was merely trying to understand why pedigrees were so important to you all. I thought that you were trying to save the RM dogs but apparently not. it seems that bashing Twyla is more important than the dogs. Sad really. and I’ll spend my money however I want to spend it. I happen to really like the temperaments of the RM dogs. That is why I purchased one but I don’t have to explain myself to any of you.
Kathleen you may want to ask that question to the people that bought puppies with congential heart defects…….
Kathleen I am not going to tarnish this website aimed only at exposing cruel and greedy puppy farmers by debating with you. Twyla was at RM, and both before and after ignored the condition of those RM dogs. Nothing will set things straight for the dogs Kathleen who have suffered or died or been traded off. The pedigree makes no difference to the value of any dog as a canine companion or to the suffering of these dogs and it has nothing to do with what you are implying. For you to imply that I or anyone else opposed to the factory farming of dogs believes that a pound dog is of less value because it doesn’t have a pedigree is just a very self-righteous statement that to me only demonstrates your lack of understanding of this entire matter.
Twyla is breeding dogs as a business, to make money. That for me personally, is unethical.
Your rescued dogs, all rescued dogs come with no falsehoods. These dogs and the pound staff do not wrap them up as something they are not. I too and many other have also taken dogs with no pedigrees. But those dogs are honest. Dogs that come with false pedigrees however, where there are potentially serious health issues is another ball game. When Kathleen you have nursed a sick and dying dog in your arms that came with a false pedigree and presented with a condition that took away that dog’s quality of life because someone wanted to make some money and didn’t screen for avoidable conditions, and robs you of a special and very loved canine friend, you may then understand the heart break.
Kathleen you are spouting nonsense. When you “rescue” a dog from the pound it is open and honest dealing, you get a dog with no known history. When you “buy” a dog from a breeder, you get handed papers with the guarentee of health and history of ancestors. When that is a lie, what have you purchased, an expensive pound puppy. This is a crime, it is paying for something that really doesn’t exsist. Now, when you abuse the dogs you so call love that is above and beyond the moral standards of all of us here. Twlya has been around for many years of the abuse and did NOTHING. She knew of the back to back breeding and the debarking, etc. etc. and she still called us the liars, which means she had aided and abetted Bev in her puppy farming and now she is a puppy farmer herself. And Bev gets the Oscar for people bashing.
Kathleen I am not sure what it is about this picture you can’t quite comprehend and why pedigrees are important. I note you can have a laugh as many other RM supporters have had in the past at the expense of these long suffering dogs. Enjoy your fluffy puppy from Kirstie bred illegally with 3 back to back litters in 12 months and the knowledge that you have lined the pockets of those who did this to Kirstie. Keep spending your blood money anyway you choose.
It is about trying to save and protect the RM dogs Kathleen but it is also about ensuring people like Beverly Manners are shut down and prosecuted. If Twyla wants to involve herself knowingly with such people, be it on her own head. She is in my books, no better. That you support this and defend breeding for money makes you in my books also much the same. Don’t explain yourself – not interested, your true colours and comments are pretty evident for all to now see.
Then I guess every breeder who accepts money for a dog is a puppy farm! I have no interest in carrying on with people who are so blinded by there own sad angry lives. The truth will come out and you will all be ashamed of your ignorant selves!
What is really sad is you are willing to purchase a dog from a known unethical breeder, the puppy you have is from an abused mother bred back to back, now you say you can spend your money any way you like, that is true but really how does that make it a right thing to do?? Again, papers are important for all the reasons stated here plain and simple. No you have explained enough, your desire for a puppy from a puppy farmer knowing all this says it all. Really, it is you that doesn’t care where your dog came from now isn’t it.
No Heike, what is really sad is that had you actually taken a minute to read any of my replies you would have known that I purchased my dog before I became aware of this site or anything to do with RM. As I have stated before, you have no credibility as someone who has the dogs best interests in mind so I can’t believe anything I read on this site. You are all just sad people who have nothing better to do with your lives than wallow in anger. None of you care about a solution to the happiness of the RM dogs because if you opened your eyes and really saw the changes being made then you would have no one to pick on and nothing to keep you living your sad angry little lives. I would rather spend my energy on those out there who are just as mad but have the foresight to find a solution. You are one of the most uneducated and ignorant people I have ever had the displeasure in conversing with and now I am done!
Excuse me, I am uneducated….for your information it is BECAUSE of the dedication of the people behind this site as well as another that exposed Beverley and her horrible treatment of her dogs, it is because dedicated people risked their skin and spoke out against her that has made the difference…..The whole reason for this site and all the exposure is because they do CARE………it is you that is angry, angry we will not sign off on the so called new and improved puppy farming. The solution to the happiness of RM dogs is stop using them as breeding machines.
What kind of changes are there? Have you seen it? People here do seem mad but maybe because they know a lot more than I do. I can’t believe that someone doesn’t stop her! It seems like puppy farmers are being sorted out all over Australia and why aren’t they being closed down? It is taking a long time to read all ths stuff and understand the history of the breeder but I keep coming back to they can’t all be wrong.
No Kathleen it’s about breeders who breed just for money and the puppy sales as opposed to those who breed to improve as a passion, on proven known pedigrees, with full health screening, and take exceptional care of their dogs as dogs not as income and all based on sound experience and ethics.
As the opening sentence of this very site state “IT IS THE LINE THAT YOU CROSS WHEN, INSTEAD OF WORKING TO SUPPORT YOUR BREED, YOU ASK IT TO SUPPORT YOU”
The truth is out Kathleen – you are just intentionally and conveniently slow on the uptake.
Thank you, Lisa. I was sitting here pondering how I could contribute to this whole string of comments without seeming like a ‘money monger’. I can proudly state that I am a small breeder of these wonderful dogs and do follow a very strict, self-imposed policy of certifiable multiple health testing – not only on my puppies but on their parents and provide copies to every customer. I welcome visits, provide weekly updates, use a trainer for ‘client/puppy’ match ups and choose to spay/neuter at 11 to 12 weeks old. Yes, I keep my puppies for 12 to 13 weeks so that their recovery is complete and without issues. My clients are happy and know they can contact me for any reason at all.
I believe no dog or person is perfect and have no issues whatsover telling you the pros and cons of any of my dogs or puppies. Full disclosure works for the betterment of both breeder and buyer, in my humble opinion.
Breeding has its rewards and downfalls, but it is something I enjoy and will continue to do as long as my health and desire permit it. When it becomes a burden, I will stop as breeding for me is a choice not a business.
The “truth” is out and obviously you have no inkling of what good breeders do.
How do you stop a bad breeder? Why has she been let to do this for so long? She must overpay her workers for them to keep quiet and probably won’t let anyone near her place so they don’t see stuff. But someone obviously has seen enough for all this to come out and all the people posting can’t be wrong, and she is right. It doesn’t work that way.
hi folks,
i am trying to work out Beverley’s “pedigree”… on her father’s bible insert, that she proudly presents as evidence of her upbringing in ethics… it states for his 12 th birthday in 1929… now if Beverley is seventy this year, how old was her father when she was born??? She must have been born around 1940. If her father was a magistrate, then he must have had legal training prior to being appointed to the bench…so… why is there no record of this, or the appointement to the bench??
The library of congress hold records of the New York Tribune… which later became the new york herald tribune. They state there is no record of Pelham Rutland Manners being an editor in relation to either title of this paper….
family history research is so much fun!!!
alison
Alison, are you the lady with the Old English Sheepdog Wallace?
I also did some research on her background and couldn’t find any records about her so called editor grand father, although I looked through all the archives of the New York Tribune. I can still remember that on older versions of her homepage Beverley also stated that her family was going back to the Duke of Rutland. I followed the family tree of the Duke and also no record found for a Pelham Rutland in the whole family tree not even in a time which wouldn’t match Beverley’s story. Just for fun you can google the words Pelham Rutland and New York. You will get nice stories about the beautiful and oldest town in Westchester County. So why not just make up a name and a story out of those words. Pelham Rutland Manners from New York – sounds great! Add a profession with a high reputation like editor of the New York Tribune to the mix and you will have created a nice family history. Then you use your friend google again and search for some nice old pictures people have uploaded to their private homepages (i.e. if you google tending sheep historical photograph you will be led here for example: http://tiny.cc/ud24a “borrow” some pictures here and there – there are no limits when it comes to people’s fantasy.
Henry Pelham was married to Lady Catherine Manners, daughter of the 2nd Duke of Rutland.
Ring any bells?
http://www.number10.gov.uk/history-and-tour/prime-ministers-in-history/henry-pelham
He he he, good on you Alison,
I think you will also find that she didn’t graduate from the Michael Tucker Dog Psychology course (already proven on this site), she wasn’t a dog trainer for Elva Raper boarding Kennels, she wasn’t the “proprietor” of her own “boarding/training kennels Peppercorn Park” (never even existed), she has never held a dog judging license in Victoria (I’ve checked).
Her whole life is a fantasy – its all made up!
And now her recently refreshed RM site she makes the false claim that she has developed the Labradoodle for the last 26 years!
The true founder Wally Conron – founded the breed in 1988
She is a manipulative liar and con artist and I think she actually believes her own lies
and apparently so do the delusional RM groupies. Even when faced with the truth they cannot accept it!
keep up your family history research Alison 🙂
I guess when you live thousands of miles away from the people you are trying to con, it would be pretty easy to perpetuate the lies. Who would have researched all of this if not for the RM exposed site. It’s very interesting and given her history of being neglected it is not suprising she made up this whole background in order to feel important. I am sure she needs the puppy farming business to make her feel loved, even if she has a twisted understanding of what that is.
yep… Wal was a pound boy…. went to the pound to look at a cat, and came home with an old english sheepdog… and i am still not sure who got the better part of that deal…. but it was nearly ten years ago now… Wallace had multiple health issues… and as an old dog now (OESD’s are not long lived dogs and he was full grown when i got him) symptomatic management of his problems is aimed at now, not cure. My vet is in agreeance with this approach because Wal is not going to be here for many months more. Previous treatments did not achieve much, did not make him more comfortable, and some of the investigations to sort out the root causes were not pain free.
So Wall now gets Dolobid for hip and arthritis pain, and prednisolone to reduce the inflamation and irritations from his multiple allergies. His ears and eyes get washed in saline water,
and he is a happy dog on my farm.
best wishes
alison
Hi all
ongoing checking leads to more questions…
If Josie emigrated to australia in 1914, then she had exactly 3 years in which to meet the handsome Pelham Rutland Manners, marry and give birth to the man i must assume is their son to be known as Francis Joseph Rutland Manners… Quite an achievement during the First World War… and Australia being so far away from both England and America, both parties must have come over on a ship… not a short trip to say the least…
Oh yes… and Beverley said her father was a chess champion… with such matches being played by correspondence in those days… one assumes that was after the age of 12…and 1929…and possibly the second world war….you know war does tend to put a spanner in such things…
the internet is a great thing… it gives you the ability to research things so easily… so …anyone who feels like it type into any search engine chess world champions… and you will discover the following information. World Chess Championship matches were not done by correspondence, but in person, with the invitation to play extended by the current (at the time) world champion. The website gives a list of who these champions were and who the challengers were and the dates they played… Check for yourselves… there is no mention of any Rutland Manners…
at least i have to give Beverley marks for consistency in her incosistencies
Like I asked, does Beverly even know who her father is? Maybe her pedigree is made up too!
Alison your research is very good and interesting although I am sure no-one is surprised by the findings.
For those who haven’t yet read, the Farms of Shame site has a new post regarding Beverly’s daughter, Angela and all her various aliases.
http://farmsofshame.wordpress.com/
I see there are no mention of breeding dogs on RM site anymore. Could it be they are all gone now???
Do not let her fool you, Miss Heike. I have been lurking on her chat site and I cannot find a mention of Anya, Ava or Shania in Texas. That means they must still be in Australia. We know she would not lose money and find good homes for them. My thought is that her stooge Helen has them parked at her house. What else could she be doing, with Beverly and the rest of the dogs now living in Texas? Maybe there plan is for Beverly to shut down and the stooge to take over under a new name?
You are so right Chadwick, her stooge Helen who is as dirty as Ms. Manners DOES have the dogs at her place. She doesn’t even own the property. She rents it and has WAY more dogs there than the law allows. Why doesn’t anyone look into that?
Wow, wish I could lurk as well, but I would be kicked off in a new york minute….
They are not all gone. Some are still there…and they’re breeding them. Where are they and where are they going? That would be nice to know. But they are still there.
Heike– it’s still there! The funny thing is, if you google Rutland Manor, their listing comes up saying “Stop Rutland Manor” and “Rutland Manor Exposed” — she must think adding those keywords would help divert people from finding this site. At 70 years old you’d think she’d be ready to take a break from all this??
Any kind of exposure fuels her fires. I truly believe she is not happy unless there is some sort of internal turmoil going on. It gets her people to flank her and she is like a mother hen keeping her chicks close from the big, bad wolves of the world. It makes me want to either cry or laugh hysterically because she had so much to give to make this hybrid into a new breed with proper direction and testing, but she chose to ‘be an island’. Too bad. :+(
For those who may not have access to the publication ‘Dog News’ Australia (May 2010 issue), the following on page 4 will come as no surprise to most which I will transcribe in part as the publication does not have all articles online.
The title of the article is “I AM SORRY I DID IT says Labradoodle creator”
The articles starts out with reference to a lengthy and informative article published by the Australian Newspaper in April on designer/crossbred dogs.
It then goes on “Mr Conran (Wally) is now 81 and lives modestly near Geelong, in Victoria . he told the Australian newspaper “if I’d stayed in the game, I wouldn’t be living here. I’d be rich, wouldn’t I ? But my principles wouldn’t allow me to do it. He also said that breeding the first Labradoodle was the worst thing that he ever did. It is on record that only one pup went on to become a guide dog. Further labradoodles weren’t hypo allergenic as claimed by commercial breeders. “What I learnt was, you put two dogs together, you can get a hell of a lot of problems, “he says. “Most of them were crazy. The people breeding them now, they’ll tell you they’ve got the ‘hybrid vigour’, but to me that means they are basically uncontrollable. They certainly weren’t any good for what they were supposed to do, Mr Conran told the newspaper, “People now, they just do it for the money. They don’t give a damn. You’ve got somebody who’s got a Labrador and somebody else who has got a poodle, and they say, lets put them together – we’ll make a fortune. And what it is, at the end of the day ? It’s a crossbreed with a fancy name and its got all kinds of problems and it’s half crazy and untrainable.
So when people ask me, did I breed the first Labradoodle, I say “It’s true, I did, but it’s not something I’m proud of going “
I’m puzzled, Wally started all this in 1989, yet Bev claims now to have started breeding labradoodles in 1984,
“The Australian Labradoodle is not a Designer Dog.
It is a purpose bred dog I have developed over the past 26 years”
No one has an RM dog much more than 10 years old and most are young, I guess this is just another Great Big Fat Lie.
It puzzles me that she even calls them Labradoodles since there in not any detectable lab in them……they are poodle mixes plain and simple.
Trouble in Doodle Paradise?
On her chat site, Beverly calls Twyla’s ranch a doodle paradise. I have been doing some investigation of my own, speaking with Australian friends who are friendly with Beverly’s remaining employees. They say there is trouble in Paradise. Beverly is said to constantly complain Twyla and her husband don’t follow her directions and are openly questioning her decisions. Maybe they are not the doormats Beverly had hoped to indoctrinate into her breeding scam.
If that evil woman is unhappy in Texas, hopefully it is good news for the dogs. I have grown to trust Heike’s opinion since reading this site and she says Twyla takes care of her dogs. Maybe this could mean the back-to-back puppy mill breeding is over? or ending soon?
What does everyone think? I will keep investigating to try to learn more information.
– S. Chadwick
S Chadwick..not sure how long you have been a part of the RM community. Ive been around almost 9 years now. Beverely has been trying to make a presence in the USA now for years and every US operation has failed..Why? It’s the same old same old. It all sound great in the beginning and then Beverely starts pulling her shananigans. She starts changing the rules of how the business will run, which ends up only to her benefit. About 6 years ago , during one of her USA tours..she met with 4 or so USA breeders who Bev felt had the same vision as her, These breeders were in about different 4 parts of the USA. These breeder had no idea why Beverely wanted a special meeting with them, but Bev promised it was something big and exciting.
Turn outs Bev wanted 3-4 Rutland Manor USA locations covering 4 widespread areas of the USA and these breeders were selected by Bev to make them an offer. Not one of those operations ever got off the ground..because Bev is impossible to do business with. It all has to be done her way and it all is to her benefit. Thank God..the breeders in the USA were not stupid and could see though this right away. I do believe there was one RM USA presence for a very short period of time in FL with a small breeder. That didn’t last very long either.
Bev realized then she selected people who were too business or at least their attorneys advised them against such an agreement.
People can get all caught up with being honored that Bev, thinks highly enough of them to be ‘a part’ of RM and so their judgment of her is clouded..until the rubber meets the road and they realize what everyone has been warning them about..being yet another victim!
Beverely has burned so many bridges behind her that is too numerous to count.
She could of had it all if heart was truly in the right place.
That’s why most breeders in the USA won’t buy her dogs anymore and have created their own way.
Bev always slams the ALAA and how the organization which she founded is destroying the breed that she started. What she fails to tell everyone that it was the one organization she was president of but didn’t realize that a democracy can’t be a dictatorship. The organization had rules for all breeder members, but Beverly felt she should be exempt from those rules (ie health testing, etc) . The last final straw came when she wanted the organization to change ownership of some of the dogs listed in the database under Rutland Manor Syndicate as owned by her partner Trish Male ,since Trish and her were now on bad terms. She wanted the organization to remove Trish’s name and put her name on certain dogs. Well…to make a long story short..Beverely didn’t resign from the ALAA like she tells everyone she did..so I think you get the picture!
That’s why Beverely site is slaughtered with nasty things about ALAA and any breeder who is associated with the organization. She thought she was going to run the organization that she created like a dictatorship..but much to her surprise….she found out differently.
Funny that she was the 1st breeder in her organization to have a Gold Paw..yet her dogs were not all health tested. The organization demanded she remove her Gold Paw from her site until all her dogs were tested. Those are rules for any member breeder including the president! Imagine her being TOLD what to do by the board. Yes..Bev hates the ALAA..but not for the reasons she says!
If Beverley is just selling all her dogs outright and getting out of the business..that would be the best scenario and then hopes that Twyla ran the operation in a more ethical manner..but if the business arrangement is set up whereas Bev has her hooks in it..and Twlya is truly a better person than Bev..then it will once again be yet another failed attempt.
Beverely would rather go to her grave and take all her dogs with her than to know her dogs were not under her control..so I doubt Bev is selling to get out of the business
Mary I so agree with you, her hooks are into this USA/Texan affair and have been from the start years ago when she concocted this dream. I just wonder if Twyla will have the moral conviction to give Bev the heave ho….Yes, Bev has bashed every US breeder she says she tried to help or sold breeding dogs to. Really, she is not mentally right, so dealing with her can never be above board. Her and her daughter have not learned to do anything in life but to pimp out dogs and lie to the public and now we find to breed and sell dogs with congential heart defects, WTG Bev, nice health testing you have done…….Really, how do you sleep at night?????
Good for you. This all has to stop and if enough people keep looking beneath the surface, it will stop. She can’t go on forever. I think being out of Australia has to be one step in the right direction for those poor dogs. I’ve heard from a reputable source that the dogs are in the best condition they’ve ever been in and are actually living the life of dogs who are cared for. The perfect thing to happen is for her to go back and hide for the rest of her life. How can anyone from this point even consider talking to her about breeding. She has a couple new breeders on her site and I wonder how they could be unaware of all the problems with RM for so many years! Maybe their still in the honeymoon stage. Everything Beverley touches turns to crap. Mary’s post is a wealth of information and goes back farther than I know about. That woman is amazing and in her case, her daughter Angela who seems to still be in hiding, that apple didn’t fall far from the tree, did it.
Maybe that evil woman is unhappy in Texas because she can’t con Twyla into her disgusting practices. Why the hell doesn’t she jump on a leaky boat and go home!
It seems the rumours about trouble in Paradise may be true. Check Beverly’s site and you shall see she has removed the references and photos of Texas. All of her plans fail because she is a treacherous liar. Hell must have a special place waiting only for her. It is a hell she has created with each miserable dog she has abused and with each lie she has told.
– S. Chadwick
Yes that is odd! No nice references to Paradise in Texas at all on her website……hmmmm…
Rutlands Legacy in Texas used to have info on their “About Us’ page..now it’s empty. Not sure what’s up with that. They also removed The PayPal/credit card purchase for airline transportation
hi folks,
suddenly, its very easy to find info on tegan park again… and woe it says there will be several litters available in 2010… i wonder where the “original tegan park” lines have come from??
alison
Yes, I checked as well and BOTH sites have links ‘lost in space’.
I am not surprised though as there has never been a liason with Bev that has worked – not a one. Now I wonder what is going to happen to the dogs…..from Paradise Found to the Pits of Hades?
They will need to be quarantined for quite a while if she goes back to her hole in Australia. Is there no end to this endless saga for these dogs?
The links to Rutland’s Legacy are back up. But what I find even more amusing is the information about the new chat page:
“The Chat Page is a place for families who have dogs from Rutland Manor or Rutlands Legacy to gather together, share their happy or sad stories, photos and videos and to learn from one another.
Families on the waiting list are also welcome to join.
Our Chat is not a breeder forum, so breeders are encouraged to join other sites where breeding discussions are catered for.
If you are eligible, and would like to join us, please contact us with the following details
► Your full name at the time you adopted your puppy from RM or RL
AND
► Your dog or puppy’s name as it appears on the pedigree.
or if you are on the wait list –
Your full name as it appears on your Application”
Probably next step will be that she wants scanned copies of passports and a signed confidentiality statement 🙂
Beverley this won’t help leaking information….There are too many owners of RM dogs out there who will register and pass on the information they will find there as they stopped believing in your lies but “forgot” to tell you.
I really feel sorry for Twyla that she is putting so much energy in this cooperation which will fail. Twyla will be left with nothing as I have no doubt that Beverley won’t mind putting the dogs Twyla bonded now with into quarantine just to remove them from Twyla again if there is trouble in paradise.
Rutland’s Legacy is innocent and probably a stopping place for Beverly to hide dogs from litigation at home do more evil stuff and con people. The dogs at least aren’t under her care in those prisons she calls ‘bedrooms’.
Hi all…
its lovely to think that Beverley “…Bred and exhibited the following registered “Pure” breeds
Grafenburg German Shepherd Dogs – 31 years (NOT Von Grafenburg)
Silhouette Scotch Collies (Rough) – 12 years
PixiePaws Shih Tzu – 3 or 4 years
PixiePaws Maltese – 3 or 4 years
Grafenburg Rottweillers – 3 years (NOT “Von” Grafenburg)
Held Victorian Judging Licence for Groups 3 and 5…”
The great things is family history again… Have family who have been showing and exhibiting which numerous australian champions to the their name for over 45 years in group 5. They have gone back through their show records…
… no mention of Beverley Rutland Manners or any of her other name versions. …
if anyone has some other names that beverley uses that i may not be aware of can they please list them here… I do believe that Dogs Australia would be interested in some one who is fraudulently claiming their judging qualifications…
alison
She uses Wetzel (not sure of spelling) and Kunze. I’m sure there are others but then that’s as hard to keep track of as the names of the businesses she’s has. T.I.G. Trust in God…that one infuriates me. Are people supposed to trust her more whenever she throws God into the mix?, New Covenant, RM Breeding and Research Centre, RM Pty, RM Ltd…..how can people keep up with that? Maybe the next one can be Rutland’s Abused Labradoodles. She ought to be ashamed to use that name. She should be ashamed to show her face back in Warragul.
Does Beverly even know who her father is? It’s very obvious that she wasn’t raised with class and good manners…..no pun intended.
Why doesn’t someone clue Dogs Australia in? Does Beverly even remember what name she used? How many are there or does she know for sure.
In reply to Trouble in Paradise, Twyla and her husband may have wised up and that is a good thing however, it may simply be a result of commercial common sense. I never considered Twyla a doormat – this was about business. Twyla is a businesswoman not a breeder of passion. Anyone, irrespective of how well they take care of their own dogs who breeds as a business and more critically who saw what she saw at RM and continued with her business relationship with Beverly and did nothing to alleviate the conditions of the RM dogs is highly questionable in my own personal opinion. If you truly love dogs and you see wrong, you speak out, business or no business. Twyla is breeding as a business. Anyone who breeds for money is breeding for the wrong reasons.
In reply to Alison, I too tried to follow up Beverly’s claims of being a registered conformation judge. I tried under both her maiden and married name. I found nothing. As a registered member of Dogs Victoria, I will happily pass on Beverly’s claims because no, they will not be happy at all.
Regarding this; In reply to Alison, I too tried to follow up Beverly’s claims of being a registered conformation judge
Take the ‘formation’ off the word and you have registered con!
Maybe she went under her other alias Wetzel. I agree with Lisa on the puppy selling business. I personally don’t agree with shipping dogs/puppies all over the world for any reason.
Well, well, Bev admits Wally bred the labradoodle on her website and continues to complain other breeders are breeding HER dogs with cocker spaniels and back to poodles, ummmm Bev didn’t you do this yourself??????
Shouldn’t it be called a CockaDoodleDoo?
Well par usual, she just revamped her website once again…..links are back up, new letter up, giving kudos to Mr. Cochran and making the ole so distinction that hers’ are AUSTRALIAN Labradoodles…..and that she will maintain oversight of the breeding in Texas, including allocation of puppies…how the heck can you do that from another country??????
She makes updates to her website to defend herself from allegations on this one and others. If she improved the lives of the dogs and ceased her monstrous practices, the need for sites like this would end.
It is apparent she never spends time caring for the dogs. She spends her time marketing god, grandma and phony pedigrees. Why break a sweat when you have a staff to do your work and blame for your failures?
Tick-tock, tick-tock, Beverly. Can you hear your time running out? We know about your new Australian plans. Your friends are talking and the word is out. Do you really think we will go away when you change your business name and set your stooge Helen up as a Rutland breeder in Australia? Does anyone know how many breeding dogs can be housed on one rental property in Victoria without a permit? The stooge may soon find out.
What is this now? I went to the chat page and after it was shut down, appeared again as Australian Labradoodles Char and disappeared again – it is there again now named as:
Former Groupies Who Now Know Rutland Manor is a Puppy Mill Chat
“I was so sure I would never buy a dog from a puppy mill, but I was wrong.”
Sign In
If you’re not a member, click here to sign up.
http://rmlabradoodlechat.ning.com/
HA! some one had a brilliant idea 🙂
Or it is Beverley who is trying to “identify” her not so loyal followers lol
How pathetic!
hey what the heck… i tried to sign up… if beverley wants to make an issue with me, she can… i almost would look forward to it… i would like to see her justify her behaviour to an elderly disabled women, let alone to a complete stranger… but then… thats right we were not there to buy one of her puppies so she didn’t have to be nice to us.
I did too but it would not go. :+(
Try again Joyce, I asked the moderator of that site and they said no one has been knocked back from joining.
http://rmlabradoodlechat.ning.com/
Alison, your Wallace was not well cared for at RM. There are people who were there that know that the boarded dogs got no attention, no walks and crappy food. They tried to love him up as much as they could. You were very trusting to leave him there and it’s terrible that you were conned as well as everyone else who trusted RM with their dogs.
Without passing judgement, being insensitive or minimizing the seriousness of anyone with a mental illness..I just felt I would share what was told to me by a very close breeder friend of mine about 7 yrs ago.
Beverely used to do many USA tours either yearly or every other year. During her USA tours..she had volunteer host families who she would stay with throughout the USA.
The goal was to get host families for the west coast, east coast, southern area and the northern areas who would organize labradoodle romps in these areas and she was the featured guest. She would do grooming seminars , training semimars, etc. It was also an opportunity she said to see how the many of the pups she produced turned out like.
Anyways..one of the host families 7 yrs ago was a very very close breeder friend of mine and so I took a 3 hr drive to meet Beverely.
This particular breeder was very close to Beverely at the time (not anymore) and they had, not only a professional relationship, but a personal one. Beverely devulged alot of personal information with her about her checkered past and rather disfunctional homelife. Not sure why Beverely placed her daughter Angela in foster care as a child..but she did. She also disclosed that she, Beverely herself was being treated for paranoid schizophrenia.
Perhaps that’s why her daughter had to be placed in foster care becuase she unable to care for her. I do not know.
So much of what we read here with all confusion about who she really is..could very much be attributed to her disease.
Others, including myself have confronted her with it and other than wanting to change the subject..she does not deny it.
Just thought perhaps I would mention this, as perhaps it has something to do with unraveling mystery behind some of her aliases along with all her other sordid behaviors.
That may explain alot of her mysteries on her history, behavior….however sick or not. She knows difference between right and wrong….
I saw first hand – the boarding and breeding kennels – they were disgusting.
Yes the boarding dogs had not genuine care – only enough to keep them alive and no exercise