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Where is Andie ?

June 10, 2010

I would have loved to stay for your romp! But I had to fly to Sydney to do some training sessions with a family who live quite close to Derani, and seeing as I arrived Tuesday night I had to be back by Thursday because Helen doesn’t work on Fridays or on week ends, and I needed to be back here to take care of things.
One day I hope to make it! Beverley Manners January 21st 2010

Why is the above quote relevant ? Our research team came has come across a very disturbing post on a  blog whilst searching for Rutland Manor “pedigree’s”. It has immediately raised serious concerns for one poor little Rutland manor puppy named “Andie” by the family who quite obviously loved her very much. The 46 comments on this post are also worth a read.

Ava and Knossos had a liter of 9 puppies on November 11th 2009. We know all the families who accepted these puppies and would be grateful if they would contact us.

Reading through this heartbreaking story may also explain why Beverley has removed the Rutland Manor breeding dogs from her website, especially Ava and Knossos.

As for Andie, we suspect she was probably killed rather than have money spent on life saving surgery. A truly horrific situation for the family involved, for Andie and all the other siblings from this litter. The bizarre situation at Rutland Manor only gets worse as more  research is  conducted and more people are starting to bravely speak out as they know the truth must be spoken and the lies and manipulations must cease. The public have a right to know what is really going on.

Beverley we know you read this site daily.  Where is Andie now? Will you be desexing Knossos and Ava?

When are you going to retire and leave the bloody dogs alone?

Ava and her babies-Nov 2009

58 Comments leave one →
  1. Cristy permalink
    June 10, 2010 8:20 am

    OMG That website says it all, from the way Beverley treats not only animals but people.
    I remember Kate’s Yindi came from this litter, interesting isnt it.

    Shame on you Beverley, you are truly one of the most conniving, manipulative cruel, unethical people on this planet.
    Stop playing with peoples lives, desex all the RM dogs and go away!!! Your name is MUD. And you are not the FOUNDER, Wally Conron is and he unlike you regrets everything. Get over your self.

    • Jnusha Holt permalink
      June 11, 2010 5:17 am

      Do you think all the puppies in that Ava and Knosses litter are unhealthy? How can we find out? Don’t vets have to examine them for them to leave for their new homes? I don’t get it. Why breed them. Wouldn’t testing show problems but then she doesn’t really do tests, does she? I feel sorry for the families of these puppies and wonder how they are doing.

  2. Dee permalink
    June 10, 2010 9:31 am

    The woman is brave for speaking out about her experiences and I applaud her.
    To many have made the decision not to through fear of Bev’s intimidation tactics.
    The more people who speak out the better it is, people power will shut her down, sales will drop.
    Good riddance to a dark chapter in the Labradoodle history.

  3. Lisa J Ryan permalink
    June 10, 2010 9:42 am

    These poor bloody dogs. I hope this family have reported this experience to the relevant authorities.

  4. Marg and Gary permalink
    June 10, 2010 11:26 am

    Come on Bev we know you read this site
    Is Andie still alive and if so where is she ?

    • Jnusha Holt permalink
      June 11, 2010 5:19 am

      She could post a picture of any puppy and say it’s Andie. How would anyone know for sure.

  5. Heike Allison permalink
    June 10, 2010 7:59 pm

    Yes eveytime someone else’s horror story about Bev and what she has done comes out the more information we have to prove her guilt and cruel practices….She is cunning however, with her new and improved puppy mill going on in the USA it will take a whole lot more to shut her down there… long as she receives one dime of the backs of dogs. What a heartless person to knowingly sell a puppy with a heart defect to a family without their knowledge. And then one of her trolls post a horrible response to this woman while lying to her as well of her intentions…..Nice Tracy makes you a dutiful cult member to do that.

  6. Heike Allison permalink
    June 10, 2010 9:01 pm

    PDA is believed to be polygenic, caused by more than one pair of genes, so random in nature. The affected dog and its parents should not be bred. So Bev, tell us have you desexed these dogs yet??? This is from a cardiac vet site about PDA in dogs.

  7. Karma, What Goes Around Comes Around permalink
    June 10, 2010 11:41 pm

    And now the RM Chat page is shut down?? And the link from her website to it gone? What’s wrong Beverley? Too much truth?

    • Coco permalink
      June 11, 2010 6:00 am

      Here is your answer:
      Rutland Manor Chit Chat Page was set up a number of years ago with its main purpose being to provide a central place where Rutland Manor Australian Labradoodle families could come together to share their sad and funny stories, pictures and videos, and to glean helpful information from the sharing of experiences of other Rutland Manor families.

      Over recent years membership swelled to well over four hundred, many who do not have Rutland Manor dogs and whose dogs bear little resemblance. This created quite a lot of confusion, so coupled with the chat page’s network changing to a paid only site, the time was right to provide again a place where Rutland Manor families can gather together as was so valued in the past without encountering conflicting information. With this in mind we are looking at available options, one of which is an RM members only blog from his website. Stay tuned!

      Nice that the chat members were informed upfront about this – not! Now all the content which people contributed (pictures, videos, contacts/friends)is gone. Not really a nice way to treat people. But duh – I forgot – we knew that already!

    • A Doubter, losing more respect by the minute permalink
      June 14, 2010 4:55 pm

      Looks like the chat page is back up, maybe the so-called friends of Rutland Manor paid for it since that’s the reason she claims she took it down.

      • June 15, 2010 9:56 am

        Seems she claims hackers gleeming personal information from its’ members is the reason she shut it down, LOL, I think it may be they are sharing info and she doesn’t want this stuff leaked out….

  8. alison permalink
    June 11, 2010 3:47 am

    doing the same sort of thing, i came across a blog for someone called “floridagirl” and her mentioning about bev doing some in house training for them… i wonder if this is the same “Training” mentioned??? It was a good read

  9. Heike Allison permalink
    June 11, 2010 6:13 am

    Me thinks she is trying to stop up the leaks in her system, next up will be background checks and fingerprints to blog on her chat page, LOL!!!

  10. Karma, What Goes Around Comes Around permalink
    June 11, 2010 6:30 am

    “With this in mind we are looking at available options, one of which is an RM members only blog from his website. Stay tuned!”

    We are? Who is we? And who is “he” as in “his website”?

    You have to wonder what all the RM chat members think when they see the chat page gone with no explanation….

  11. June 11, 2010 6:55 am

    my happy and healthy much loved dogs, a clip from her website, where’s andie Bev???? Is she still happy and healthy?? Did you put her down to erase the evidence??

  12. Beth permalink
    June 11, 2010 8:21 am

    I just read in another blog that Florida girl has herself another Labradoodle called Ruby and is very happy about her. As for the so called training method used on the last pup utterly scary . I use a check chain on my dog it is supposed to replicate a nip from mum a quick pull and it releases it is never used to choke a dog makes me wonder if it was even put on right. Put on the wrong way and it won’t release. And as for Florida girl harassing Beverly I too would want a refund and lots answers and not to mention the pain of the whole situation.

    • Jnusha Holt permalink
      June 11, 2010 2:02 pm

      The Sydney girl got her new puppy from Tamaruke. They test their dogs! And Tamaruke was in business with RM a while back but of course that failed and of course it was Tamaruke’s fault. It’s always someone elses fault. This is hard to comprehend but the truth speaks loud.

  13. Marg and Gary permalink
    June 11, 2010 1:13 pm

    Knossos is back on her website. This dog’s puppies have had many health issues over the years, not just with Ava.
    He should of been desexed years ago and Bev knows it.

    • Jnusha Holt permalink
      June 11, 2010 7:05 pm

      What am I missing? I don’t see the breeding dogs listed on her website. She took her chat site down! What could have made her do that. How many innocent supporters are there hanging out to dry with no way to communicate. For the most part, I’m sure it was a nice community and many people do NOT know the real Beverley Manners so it is sad. A lot of beloved, expensive rescue dogs they have. What will it take to stop this woman. It seems like even being out of Australia doesn’t stop her. What does she plan to do with the puppies already born in Australia and and shipped out of the country sick. And what happens to the ones soon to be born out of the poor worn out bitches, Isabella, Ava, Anya and the worst of abused bitches SHANIA!!! I thought they shut her down in breeding Shania. Why is her stooge (a great nickname btw) Helen allowed to continue this horrible insanity? Is no one accountable for their actions in the absence of the main madwoman?
      What is it that is known about Knosses? Do the sick puppies come from his lines or Ava’s? After looking at a lot of breeders sites you can see that they post proudly the testing they do. THEY have nothing to hide.

  14. Carole Grundy permalink
    June 11, 2010 4:05 pm

    It seems unbelievable that a vet could perform a neuter on Andie and not check her heart first. A grade 5/6 heart murmur could not be missed by the least competent vet so what the heck went on at RM for a puppy to go out with a serious heart murmur which they KNEW about. Indeed should surgery have been committed on such a puppy that could never be sold in a normal way?
    When Andie returned, was she pts or even sold on to the pet shops?
    Has someone else now got this poor puppy?
    If the ex owner still has the microchip number, it would be a good idea to publish it.

  15. Lisa J Ryan permalink
    June 11, 2010 10:04 pm

    And which vet has earned $$$ out of Beverly for vaccinating a puppy and probably many over the years with serious health issues ? Has Florida Girl kept details of the puppy vaccination records ?

    I fear for the safety of this puppy and Knossos who are likely to disappear like Ellie did and probably many other RM dogs have over the years.

    • June 12, 2010 4:22 am

      Knossos is listed as a breeding dog. 😦

      • Jnusha Holt permalink
        June 23, 2010 5:58 pm

        You mean Knosses, the Poodle? What ever happened to Highland Mist anyway?

    • Jnusha Holt permalink
      June 14, 2010 2:40 pm

      Cant’ you contact the Florida girl and ask her? It doesn’t look like there was any love lost between her and RM and now she has a very healthy puppy from a reputable breeder. She would certainly have the TRUTH since Andie was her dog!

  16. Geraldine permalink
    June 12, 2010 2:42 am

    Legacy of Rutland are selling the puppies by Paypal or pay by Credit Card – to anyone who wants to buy “Online” eeewwww!!!

    You have to be kidding – these are live puppies NOT Groceries or clothing.

    They are just as bad – selling like ebay!!!!!

  17. Lisa J Ryan permalink
    June 12, 2010 5:20 am

    One possible way to have Beverly Manners prosecuted is through the Victorian ‘hereditary Disease’ legislation which came into effect on Tuesday 4 December 2007 and which states :

    Clause 89, Section 15C of the Animal legislation Bill makes it an offence to intentionally or recklessly breed a dog with a heritable defect. It also states that when selling a dog with any such defect, it must be disclosed to the purchaser.

    If someone can obtain the vet reports from Florida Girl and a statement and then refer to DPI with a copy of Bev’s current advertising of Knossos as a breeding dog, DPI can then investigate both the vet and Beverly and any other affected dogs.

  18. June 13, 2010 3:34 am

    Rutlands Stud Boys


    Rutlands Charlemagne – due to retire 2011

    Medium and Small Standard

    Rutlands Onyx – due to retire 2011

    Hyland Myst Knossos

    Rutlands Flaming Red Embers ( son of Onyx )
    He’s listed on her breeding dog page….

  19. Georgina permalink
    June 14, 2010 5:10 am

    I saw a website for Legacy of Rutlands but it seems to have disappeared.

    Is Twyla still in business?

  20. Coco permalink
    June 14, 2010 6:07 am

  21. Georgina permalink
    June 14, 2010 10:27 am

    Are you beginning to see the light Twyla?

    The truth will be evident soon – if not now – and you will be caught just like EVERYONE else has been in the past.

    Remember Twyla – we can’t ALL be wrong!!!!

    You will see the truth just like we all did.

    We all trusted Beverley just like you.

    We all tried to help Beverley and felt sorry for her….

    Even you can’t deny the evidence. What excuses does Bev give you to explain all of the evidence?

  22. Lisa J Ryan permalink
    June 14, 2010 2:02 pm

    Arrhhhhh !!!

    Its not about who is right or wrong or who has seen the light. It’s about the dogs, the abuse, the deaths, the suffering, the cruelty, the greed -remember Ellie and her babies, remember dogs tethered to stop them jumping fences, remember the extreme matting of coats, remember the dogs who had their voice boxes removed for ever, living the filth and loss of the ability to trust, being sold off to people like Colin Hamms.

  23. Arabella permalink
    June 15, 2010 9:39 am

    Someone told me to have a look at this website and I am sorry to say I am not surprised with what I see. Beverley Manners or Rutland-Manners (nee Wetzel) was involved in the Quarterhorse and Appaloosa show scene for years. Her and her daughter had shocking reputations back then and were cruel to their own horses. It doesn’t just stop at dogs. Any animal which is capable of making her money or inflating her ego is at risk. People in the equine industry still talk about them and shake their heads.

  24. June 15, 2010 10:01 am

    Who are you protecting Bev, yourself?? The truth is out for everyone to see….

  25. Coco permalink
    June 16, 2010 1:42 pm

    What is going on there at RM? First the chat page disappeared claiming it was due to the change to a paid site, then the page was back up again with a different name but identical URL. At the same time a new comment on the RM site appeared that the page was put down due to “hackers” to protect the membership:
    “Over recent years membership swelled to well over four hundred, many who do not have Rutland Manor dogs and whose dogs bear little resemblance. This created quite a lot of confusion! So coupled with the chat page’s network changing to a paid only site, and site hackers, the time was right to provide again a place where Rutland Manor families can gather together as was so valued in the past without encountering conflicting information. With this in mind we are looking at other options.

    I do apologize to all those of you who enjoyed the old chat site, for closing it down without notifying everyone first. The site was not as secure as thought, and when I learned that troublemakers were hacking into it to gather personal details from its members, it was shut down as quickly as possible to protect the membership.


    And now the “new” chat page is gone again….

    • Jnusha Holt permalink
      June 17, 2010 4:07 am

      I am going to be sick. Does that woman ever own up to anything wrong she does which is just about everything? Does she really think she is perfect? What makes her go on and on????? It’s not natural and it’s time she didn’t land on her feet.

  26. Rutland Whatever, different name same disregard permalink
    June 18, 2010 12:47 am

    Put the following in a google search box:
    ASIC gazette new covenant deregistered mar 2010

    Let’s hope this means New Covenant is actually deregistered in Victoria, and not going to re-register under yet another name.

    • Jnusha Holt permalink
      June 23, 2010 4:43 am

      Of course they will reregister. I’m sure there are many corporation names they have on their list. Maybe Helen’s Labradoodles? Or as someone else called her The Stooges Labradoodles. Will someone please stop these vile people!!!!!

  27. Ange permalink
    July 30, 2010 7:35 am

    AT LONG LONG Last The TRUTH is starting to filter through,
    I desperatly hope at long last people will come to know that the painfuly Vicious tales and roomers spread across the world about me and Tegan mostly through the horrific Divorce and other horrid situations, will at LONG LAST be seen for what they are and to those innocently and those who knowingly nurtured those roomers and Tales because after all If my own Mother said I was a wicked despicable person it MUST be true!!!!! At Last maybe you all Will STOP Tarring me with the same brush as my mother.
    Yes I have made mistakes and errors of judgment including trusting family over and over again,
    Kate and the Y Girls I do not know who you are but do not feel bad about being manipulated and seeing only what you were directed to see, I did it for years ended up in a sobbing wrecked mess over and over again.
    Please do not misunderstand me I LOVE my mother always have always will but I have no more respect for her and I am ashamed but more than that a piece of me dies a slow painful death as people out there point their accusing finger at me.

    I and ONLY I created this Breed, I NEVER bred for color, I never bred for money I NEVER NEVER had a day go by that I did not know the intimate details of every dogs day providing I was physically able to be with them. Many people said I was slow and uncaring to not respond to emails within a few hours but I did not worry about that sort of thing because I was WITH my beloved dogs, I had wonderful help from true dog loving girls but I picked up as much poop as they did and groomed and played and loved them. The ONLY Time my dogs suffered lack of care was when my ex husband and Girlfriend and my mother took on a hostile business take over while I was trapped in a Domestic Violence shelter. Still today there are babies I have no clue where they are or who has them.
    Again it has been a LONG time to finally see some truth appearing. Lets hope the whole truth comes to light so that I can cast off someone else’s tar.

    I still hold these dogs close to my heart and would love to see my dreams for this breed to become fulfilled There is so much help and support I would love to share again.

    • Annabelle permalink
      July 30, 2010 2:10 pm

      Didn’t take Angela Cunningham long to sniff out a business opportunity did it !

      Or should we call you Melody now or Ange ??

      Love how you play the victim too, thats right, go for the sympathy vote – hmm sounds familiar to me.

      You and your mother DID NOT create this breed you exploited it after Wally Conron created it.
      You bred for profit and dealt with other puppy farmers and then ripped off people around the world!
      Crawl back under your rock Angela people don’t forget that easily, leave the dogs alone

    • Lisa J Ryan permalink
      August 2, 2010 6:12 am

      Yes but you know where Mr Taters went don’t you Ange – where you sold him, the conditions you sold him into and what happened to him and the others you sold into a life of misery when you were trying to rake in some extra cash. Don’t breed for colour or money don’t you ? I’ve see the prices on your websites while you continue to breed without a permit. Maybe you don’t breed for colour – but you do breed for size – your Mini Mini Mini Mini made up “teacup” poodles. Your ‘ramblings’ are as good as your mothers’, as is your legacy of greed and cruelty. Doesn’t matter that you didn’t turn up to your VCAT hearing – you face is well and truly enshrined on the front page of the Mansfield Courier for us all to see.

  28. alison permalink
    July 30, 2010 6:26 pm

    That post gives me a strange sense of de ja vu…
    i’m sure there was one from Beverley expressed in very similer terms about her daughter??
    I think both ladies doth protest too much…

    and Ange… go get a life away from animals… the evidence about your behaviour and treatment of the dogs you had is far to strong…

    How did your court case go… did you even dare to show your face….?

    • Ange permalink
      August 2, 2010 1:59 am

      WHAT Court Case????

      • StopRutlandManor permalink*
        August 2, 2010 5:49 am

        I think Alison is referring to your recent VCAT case where you took the Council to court to overturn there decision not to give you a breeding permit. (Even though you were already operating illegally without a permit). And no Alison, Angela did not show up at the court case, her husband and sister-in-law did.

  29. sarah permalink
    July 30, 2010 9:02 pm

    This would be the same “ange’ that sold me a Shitzu/poodle cross dog for $20k – as an Australian Labradoodle – the same ‘ange’ that owns ‘oscar”

    this would be the same “ANGE” that trades breeding dogs with Colin Hams

    The same “Ange” who sent her dogs to a Kill Shelter in the US.

    the same “Ange’ that condoned and ordered the shooting of poor Ellie and her puppies

    The same “Ange” that has lied and minipulated her way through life just like her mother – the apple did not fall far from the tree

    I could list ‘Ange” evidence here all day and i haven’t even started with her other names yet _ Melanie , Melody etc.

    This is the the “ANGE” that has seen a marketing opportunity and seized the chance to Blame her mother – as her mother blames her.

    wicked, vile and cruel people !!!!! You make me sick to my stomach.

    • Ange permalink
      August 2, 2010 2:01 am

      You make your self look very foolish claiming such easily proven fabrication

      I have said it before Get the facts find the provable truth and do something worthwhile with it

      • StopRutlandManor permalink*
        August 2, 2010 5:53 am

        I believe thats what we are all doing Angela

      • anon permalink
        August 3, 2010 5:45 pm

        “Ange” remembers her mothers terms so well ~easily proven fabrication~ then there is ~documentation~ ~trust~ ~nasty~ ~lies~ They have there own language.

  30. Lisa J Ryan permalink
    July 31, 2010 5:38 am

    Ange aka Melanie , Melody or whatever name you have invented – suggest you read this site in full. The world is fully aware of your ventures and this site and others (Farms of Shame) provide a very accurate and evidenced account of your history, your ‘expert’ breeding and your liaisons with other puppy farmers. I too personally recall vividly my discussions with you about Mr Taters, your emails and your response when I asked you for help for this dog – you reported me to the Police. Nice going Ange.

  31. Black ASD permalink
    July 31, 2010 8:45 am

    The same “Ange” that sold red Tegan Park Lil Red Ruby in whelp to Ange’s red dog Tegan Park Masterpiece, which then produced all black puppies in the UK. What d’ya know, it is the same “Ange”.

    Who was the father of those puppies, “Ange”? Was it funny to sell that bitch for so much money to people who trusted you.

  32. heike allison permalink
    July 31, 2010 10:04 am

    Angela, you and your mother were never into the betterment of the breed, but to make money!! We all know this…. Both of you are two bit puppy farmers…no matter what you come up with it’s all clear to us what you are up too. You both have exploited both the dogs and the people you have conned…A very long and traceable history of using these precious dogs to your own benefit and then when they didn’t fit into your plan you got rid of them…really!!!!! I for one don’t have any sympathy for what has been done by you and your mothers hands. Get a real job and leave the dogs alone once and for all….

  33. heike allison permalink
    July 31, 2010 10:06 am

    And it’s rumors!!

  34. alison permalink
    June 20, 2011 10:06 pm

    guess what… beverley actually admitted that one of her puppies had a heart problem… any guesses as to which one???

    taken from beverleys post on doodle zoo

    Dear Joyce,

    I don’t expect you to agree with me about anything at all, because your mind is closed where I am concerned and has been long before any of this rubbish started being circulated on the internet. I do beg to differ that a statement from George would be only an ‘opinion’. Someone in his professional capacity and reputation would not be giving ‘opinions’ but pure fact, that Rutland Manor has been the most prolific health tester with Gentech and now the new organization he works with.

    For your information if you would like to know, there is no such thing as CERF in Australia.

    I have been challenged via abusive postings to provide health certificates and have refused on the grounds that I don’t think it is necessary to attack and abuse. I have never refused health testing results to anyone who has asked me directly.

    When people say on a forum that they ‘know’ things, I and many others take it with a grain of salt. Unless the documented proof is supplied it is worthless gossip.

    All the ‘sick and dying dogs’ all the Addisons puppies from Chimney Sweet etc etc etc make for interesting reading for those hungry for gossip, but despite me asking publicly many times for the names of puppies or owners who have the problems, nothing ever came forth.

    One of the posters here on the Zoo even posted that all the puppies in Yindi’s litter were either sick or dead! Completely untrue! She was not asked by anyone for proof and just as well for her, because there can be none. I know where all those puppies are and there are none sick or dead. One puppy had a heart problem as we all know. The next litter of eleven by the same parents were all tested one hundred percent healthy….. and yes, I do have the veterinarian certificates for each puppy to prove it.

    Gossip does not help anyone, just stirs up strife and ill feeling.

    Kind regards,
    so one puppy …aka possible andy/spirit did have a heart problem… the next litter of eleven??? wasn’t that Brollies litter??? So what testing did she do to prove that they were all 100% healthy??? even if they didn’t show up the defect… if they are subsequently used to breed… well such a genetic defect will possibly turn up, thats the idea of not using these animals again…

  35. alison permalink
    June 22, 2011 11:27 am

    …and i’ll add there may not be CERF, but there is AVA-ANKC canine eye scheme…. for which a a pure bred stud breeder, i am required to have my puppies microchipped then presented for, prior to their individual registraion certificates are issued… If Bev has been breeding for as long as she says, if bev was a show judge, which ususally requires one to have been a steward prior to this… then she sould have been aware of this…. if she had any of her puppies eye tested by a canine opthalmolgist the she would have been aware of this…. but that’s right… she probably cant find the records….

  36. Cynthia permalink
    June 22, 2011 6:09 pm

    Having followed the “Lies and Stories of Beverley Manners” for years now, I don’t recall anyone stating that all the puppies in Yindi’s litter were sick or dead. Andie/Spririt/Moxie IS dead and no black dog with a white blaze as you posted is going to make anyone believe that is Andie/Spririt/Moxie. That poor dog looks as much like a Labradoodle as a Beagle does. Several of those puppies in that litter had serious behaviour problems as well as dental problems. That would most likely come from the famous Kelby who had terrible teeth.

    Once again Beverley appears out of nowhere to post more lies and defensive claims, says she has the famous documented truth about her non-existant health testing but never posts it and then one by one as people show her up to be the liar that she is, her posts dwindle to nothing.

    Thats because she is nothing and has nothing.

    Not surprising that she wriggled out of having Janet visit her ghost town dungeon kennels because either they don’t exist or she doesn’t want another person seeing the horrible conditions the dogs live in.
    Everytime Beverley is given a chance to partially redeem her lies, she goes silent.

    What is funny is that this behavior is observed by the whole Labradoodle world and is covered in red flags.
    Like every other organisation she has founded ALFA will fall too. She must be paying those breeders off in some way. It’s impossible to believe they aren’t aware of who she really is. Money always talks and many people can be bought.
    Where are the dogs?

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