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The “List” just keeps growing

August 28, 2009

More people around the world are starting to question the practices of Rutland Manor and more and more people are being attacked by Bev for speaking out. The web of lies is getting thicker and thicker and the Rutland manor website is getting glossier and glossier as Bev is struggling to defend and justify her illegal and cruel practices.

Many breeders are speaking in private but are still too afraid to speak publicly as they do not want their breeding program attacked which is understandable, they have all witnessed Bev over the years attack anyone who dares to question and deletes their posts from her site if they do.

One brave individual who is not scared to speak the truth is Charlotte of Tamaruke Labradoodles. Charlotte knew that speaking out about what she and her husband witnessed many times would only cause the private threats and attacks on her by Bev to go public. Charlotte has nothing to gain and everything to lose by speaking out, however she put the RM dogs first.

We have viewed the private email threats Charlotte has recieved over the last few months from Bev and they are sickening and intimidating to say the least. We applaud the courage Charlotte has to speak out and risk public ridicule and condemnation. Charlotte is one person who has put the welfare of the RM dogs above her own reputation. Charlotte welcome to the “List”

We believe in time many will follow Charlottes lead, Bev’s theory of divide and conquer will not withstand once the majority speak out and be a voice for these dogs and educate an unsuspecting public who are paying thousands for dogs with fake pedigrees and of unknown origin. Its cheaper going to the pound, just ask Bev.

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  1. Lisa Ryan permalink
    August 28, 2009 3:44 am

    Charlotte you are brave and courageous and have indeed placed the RM dog’s welfare before your and your husband’s own immediate comfort. You have done what only a good and responsible breeder should ever do when faced with such a difficult choice. You have set a wonderful example that I hope others in Australia and around the world will follow. I hope in time you are rewarded and recognized accordingly as a leader in the Labradoodle breeding fraternity who has indeed placed the dogs first. I hope you also feel a sense of relief being unshackled from the clutches of Beverly Manners and everything associated with her. The truth does indeed set you free.

  2. heike allison permalink
    August 28, 2009 6:49 am

    Charlotte you have many supporters for your bravery, even if one breeder in the US thinks it’s okay to debark dogs if necessary to keep them. I read they also think it’s okay to dock tails, declaw cats, dock ears for the “look” or conveinence. I personally don’t think mutilating animals for these reasons is okay. They worry that people like us will someday outlaw spaying and neutering. They call us militant and other names because we speak out against animal abuse. I say let them, I have no fear of their words because I know in my heart it is wrong. Others have posted, why would you debark your dogs when there are many other avenues to take. All replys have been negative for debarking.
    It isn’t illegal here in USA, but I believe it’s wrong and so do they. I have never met a debarked dog and hope to I never will. Dogs are social animals, they bark for a reason, boredom, alerting, communication with other dogs and just to say I’m here pay attention to me. They are not meant to be stuck in kennels for the purpose of just breeding. Now the bigger picture of the fake pedigrees, dogs that have been bred to a pound puppy, dogs bred to other breeds even not yet revealed, dogs that may not even be Labradoodles. The implications are huge around the world. Think for a moment what this means. Bev has sent dogs around the world, breeders have paid an enormous amount of money and what they have may just be a poodle mix with unknown backgrounds. I can’t even wrap my mind around that one. I will have my dog tested in the next few weeks and will post back here the findings. I already know one of my dogs have alot of poodle because her sire was half poodle. The other was a “pure” bred Australian Labradoodle with RM/TP lines all the way back on her pedigree. The DNA profile is 100% accurate for up to two generations back, but lab should show up because it is so common and if it doesn’t, well really can we call her a lab ra doodle, no don’t think so, she will just be a poodle mix.

    • August 28, 2009 11:19 pm

      Hi,

      Please don’t take my post out of context. I did not say that I approve of de-barking. My point was IF I had no other choice and would LOSE my dogs because my neighbors were complaining to the Town Manager, I would de-bark them in order to keep them with me. There is a huge difference in the tone of that statement . Of course, I would try every measure known to man beforehand. Fortunately, I do not have this problem and all is well. I do own a de-barked dog, but I did not do it.

      As far as the other ‘surgeries’, I feel strongly that people should have the opportunity to make choices. I may not agree with these procedures myself, but I believe in freedom of choice – even when these choices are not popular.

      On another note, I applaud what Charlotte has done by speaking out and I have told her so both publically and privately.

      • August 28, 2009 11:36 pm

        Here is my original post which is being alluded to in Heike’s comment above – verbatim:

        Joyce of Annabelle Doodles
        Everything in moderation. Unfortunately, many
        Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:00am
        74.69.240.173

        groups have good intentions but I sometimes wonder.

        I own a dog that was debarked before I bought him. Obviously, the breeder found it necessary to do perhaps to be able to stay in business. He can still bark, but it is muffled and not annoying at all.

        I have four dogs where I live and they bark often. I always go to the door and asked them to stop and most times they do as I say. HOWEVER, if my wonderful neighbors ever complained to the town officials that my dogs were a ‘nuisance’, I would de-bark them. This may not sit well with many here, but I would do anything within reason to keep my furry babies with me even if it meant doing something I normally would never do. It is a matter of common courtesy, keeping the peace, being responsible and giving a little to get to keep your animals.

        These groups can be extreme and I realize that their fervor is ‘to protect animals’ but I sometimes think that they go too far. What, for instance, would happen if they also decreed that spays and neuters would be considered ‘mutilation’ along with dew claw removal, tail and ear docking? In Europe, spaying and neutering is not common at all! Especially males – they tend to never neuter males. Is it right? Wrong? Who knows.

        What about the family that loves their cat, but needs to take off their front nails to protect their expensive drapes and furniture? Does that make these people mean and callous? No, I may not like the fact that this occurs, but the animal’s owners are loving, caring and taking the responsibility for living with their pets. The cat lovers that do this agonize over the procedure, but love their animal but also need to protect their furnishings too.

        This is not an easy world we live in, but people need to make the choices that keep the peace even when it breaks their hearts to do so.

        I wish these groups would target the many, many documented puppy mills that keep spewing sick puppies from caged adults. So many try to shut them down to no avail. This kind of passion should be directed to them.

        I wrote this post because I feel that what has happened to Rutland Manor can happen to any breeder and I believe that we do have a choice and that choice should not be determined by ‘extremists’ in any form.

      • StopRutlandManor permalink
        August 29, 2009 3:05 am

        Thank you Joyce for being brave enough to speak out here. Well done.

  3. Emma permalink
    August 29, 2009 7:38 pm

    I just had a peek at the RM Website and read the “Controversial” page
    OMG Beverley this must be the conspiracy theory of the decade. This should be made into a movie.
    So many people from so many different places – who have no link to each other, from various parts of the globe/country are ALL out to got YOU Beverley.
    It kind of makes you think their could be some truth in these allegations doesn’t it??????

  4. Lisa Ryan permalink
    September 8, 2009 10:22 am

    Bevely states “Accredited” ? “Accreditations are flowing freely on the internet from certain individuals and/or associations. These are intended to impress the unaware, but ‘who’ is providing these ‘accreditations’? The value of an accreditation is dependent on the qualifications and experience of those who bestow it. Be aware that any number of ‘accreditations’ along with a pretty badge for their websites, are readily available to any breeder who is prepared to pay a sum of money for the privilege. One such we are aware of owns a pet shop, runs a cross bred puppy farm along with Labradoodles, and disregards the very code of practice it claims to uphold and requires from its members”.

    Beverly – do you mean like the PIAA badge on your own website or the ones you make up for yourself about all your ‘pioneering’ practices ?

  5. heike allison permalink
    September 16, 2009 4:34 am

    Freedom of choice, hummmm, nope don’t believe that when it comes to harming dogs, just because it’s legal doesn’t make it right!!

    • Joyce Tabor permalink
      September 16, 2009 12:56 pm

      Who said ‘it was right’? In the US we have ‘rights’ some of which I wish we didn’t i.e. the distribution of children’s pornography or refusal to salute the American Flag or the many other things that offend me.

      I am not familiar with Australian law, but you do need to follow the laws of where you live and when you ignore them, you should be fined, jailed, etc. It is unfortunate that many dogs suffer because of PEOPLE’S neglect and lack of conscience and heart; but organizations cannot and do not make the laws and nor can they enforce them.

      What needs to be addressed here are the laws governing the welfare of dogs to protect them from abuse. This appears to be sorely lacking.

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